[Osmf-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board & auto industry / What's the story?

Oliver Kühn oliver.kuehn at skobbler.com
Wed Aug 8 20:28:15 UTC 2012


in order to avoid more speculation. Dermot and myself were attending a
meeting of a working group that consists of people who are dealing with
navigation in the German carmakers. The trip was self financed by Dermot
and myself. We were asked to give an introduction to OSM. As no NDA was
signed there was very little information from the carmakers to us.

We explained the typical stuff: coverage, license and license change,
the typical question of mixing proprietary data with OSM data, the
impact of copyright violations, liability issues, (the lack of)
copyright assignment, the limited possibility to negotiate exceptions in
the license, the limited possibility of the OSMF to provide consultancy
to corporations (and that attending such invitations is hardly possible
and the limit to which the OSMF is currently capable), the differences
to Linux in regards to the trust system with the result that
indemnification is much more difficult to provide.

The people were impressed by the growth of OSM and the quality of in
DACH but are fully aware of the gap to commercial maps (from their
perspective) e.g. limited coverage outside DACH, lack of address data,
missing lane information, missing sign posts, additional effort to
convert the map data into their proprietary format due to the lack of
structural information. They would love to see a roadmap how the gaps
will close over time.

In fact there is no business with the Automotive industry apart from
Bosch (Softec) sponsoring SOTM 2012.

Best regards,

Am 08.08.2012 19:04, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> I'm forwarding this from the OSM "talk" mailing list to OSMF-Talk 
> because I think it is relevant even for those who might not be 
> subscribed to talk at .
> In short, it's a message from a project member who would like to know 
> more about what business we have (or aim to have, or don't have) with 
> the auto industry given that (it seems to him) there are board-level talks.
> Bye
> Frederik
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board & auto industry / What's the story?
> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ThomasB <toba0211 at yahoo.de>
> To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Hi,
> In the last board minutes [1] there was written "Report of meeting with
> German auto industry in Ingolstadt". Additionally, there was a board member
> in official mission at the Telematics 2011 [2]. Telematics describes itself
> as "largest focused telematics event in Europe that will bring together
> global car manufacturers and Tier 1 suppliers to discuss future telematics
> strategy and launch new products into the market". Automotive suppliers
> have/had OSM related job offerings. One current offering from Audi's SatNav
> supplier is for a student, topic "Converting OSM data and evaluation of a
> database model" [3].
> Many board applications at the last election had statements like "If I will
> be elected, I will improve the communication". If board members/the board
> meet with the same for-profit organisations repeatedly I would think that
> the community will be informed at least to avoid conspiracy theories.
> Some questions come into my mind and since I think this is of greater
> interest, I am asking the questions here
> 1. How many meetings with the auto industry have been attended by board
> members in the name of OSM?
> 2. What was the main subject?
> 3. Are there any non-disclosure agreements signed or was there any other
> agreement that prevents the OSMF Board to talk about the content of the
> meetings? (Learned that from the ESRI case)
> Thanks a lot in advance.
> Regards
> Thomas
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1wY0TJBRCCj4p5wWSidD8wFh5l9Afb5GtZP5G5FP2-eE
> [2] http://www.telematicsupdate.com/munich/past-attendees.php
> [3]
> https://096.rexx-server.com/portal-elektrobit/grabber/stelle_preview.php?u=3soft&ga=1&sgl=eng&sl=eng&id=0_1483&sid=9dd2008a5fd9c5211f0e8b553199d8c6&popup=1&printit=1
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