[Osmf-talk] OSMF membership applications rejected

ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Sat Aug 25 15:57:11 UTC 2012

No, Frederik's approach is a NON-imperialistic answer to the problem. 
 One can ignore a problem (guy), or one may suppress the problem, or one may (try to) understand it.

In my opinion both candidates cannot do any harm to
a democratic project in good health. If the current OSMF need to use
the ultimate weapon, well then they must feel incapable
of dealing with both candidates.. not a position of strength ....


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Oliver Kühn [mailto:oliver.kuehn at skobbler.com] 
Verzonden: zaterdag 25 augustus 2012 17:01
Aan: Frederik Ramm
CC: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Osmf-talk] OSMF membership applications rejected


your position is still unclear to me since you are still using the forum. Are you accepting trolls and tolerating these Nazi-statements from a troll? Was your initial mail a proposal how to deal with these statements (shrug away)?


Am 25.08.2012 um 16:19 schrieb Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>:

> Hi,
> On 25.08.2012 15:40, Oliver Kühn wrote:
>> honesty I think it is a very big mistake to accept trolls and cracy 
>> people (at least at the limit to legality in their statements) in the
>> (local) community as this is holding new (or less involved) people 
>> back from  becoming (more) active. Your mail reads a bit like an 
>> excuse or protection for Edwin. I think there should be zero 
>> tolerance for Nazi-like statements rather than "shrugging away".
> There was a thread about banning Edwin from the Forum about a year 
> ago,
> here:
> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13151
> I didn't intend to defend Edwin's behaviour. However I don't consider 
> myself "at home" in the German forum; I do occasionally read or post 
> an article but I'm not part of the social fabric there. The forum does 
> have moderators and those moderators can ban people; the forum is a 
> healthy and lively community who, I should think, can handle their own affairs.
> If they feel that their way of dealing with Edwin is best then I am 
> not in a position to tell them otherwise.
> Bye
> Frederik
> --
> Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frederik at remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

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