[Osmf-talk] Future of DWG work, copyright, vandalism

[Kate Chapman]

I don't think it is a good idea to make the messaging public. I think
it should be private by default, not public. I think having the
ability to have people discuss changesets in public makes sense and
the person who uploaded the changeset would get notified.

That way you could decide which method you were using to send the
person a note publicly or privately.

Having people back you up in a debate sometimes comes across as
"ganging up" on people as well, so that is something to keep in mind.
This is especially important with new people.

-Kate



On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Harry Wood <mail at harrywood.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> On 06/07/2012 04:26 PM, Guttorm Flatabø wrote:
>>> I really miss to contact editors on "talk
>>> pages" and discuss edits and objects publicly in a similar way to how it
>>> is done with talk pages on Wikipedia (all pages on Wikipedia has a talk
>>> page).
>
>> From: Frederik Ramm
>> I don't like the "user talk page instead of email" concept that most people
>> in Wikipedia seem to cherish. I think that the *default* for user-to-user
>> communication should be that the communication is private. But I fully
>> agree with you that it should be *possible* to have a public communication.
>
> My response to this thread was going to be the exact same thing that Guttorm Flatabø has zero'd in on here. I think it would be a very good idea to change things so that when you send a one-to-one message to somebody to discuss their edits, even though it is in essence one-to-one, it would be a public, and it should be public by default in my opinion.
>
> This makes it easy to see if you're the first person to contact a user about something, or to join in with others if they need back-up in a debate. I believe this would help us to deal with suspicious edits much more effectively as a community. Less work for DWG. A side benefit is that we can also spot cases where OSMers are biting the newbies e.g. because they're being over-protective of their turf. At present we have no idea how much of a problem this is.
>
> Although this idea is like the "user talk pages" on wikipedia, in OSM I'd envisage this not as a wiki page with wiki style editable discussion (which is exotic and weird) but as a simple modification of our current site's message system, essentially making a publicly viewable inbox. We'd need to display a flashing warning for a few months in case people who are not used to this are expecting the message they send to be private. It would have a public/private option, and could be introduced gradually, but eventually the etiquette would be to stick with public for most communications. It will seem odd and may take a while to get used to and establish the etiquette for.
>
> Harry
>
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