[Osmf-talk] What is the OSMF?

Mikel Maron mikel_maron at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 1 11:08:26 UTC 2012

Thinking about this more broadly, there are clearly two main positions about the role of OSMF, the laissez-faire and the proactive. There's definitely a more sensible reality in between, but the discussion of anything in particular polarizes the outlooks. 

I'd really like to know what we really think. But we have no way of understanding our own views on this systematically. No way to survey membership, or an agreed strategy. It would be great to have these processes.

But perhaps we should just accept the OSMF is what it is. Minimal organization to legally and technically hold OSM resources. 

And start another organization, with a real mandate to promote OSM. Maybe one among businesses, another governments. Just a thought.

* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

> From: Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
>To: Mark Iliffe <mark at markiliffe.co.uk> 
>Cc: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org 
>Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 11:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] a receding opportunity
>On 10/01/12 11:38, Mark Iliffe wrote:
>> It would all be too easy for an inquisitive journalist to start to look
>> deeper - "Maybe Apple was good, the data is at fault...". We can't talk
>> for the other data users, but we can speak for ourselves, not doing so
>> just seems the wrong thing to do. In that we could also help prevent
>> minor licence violations in future.
>I didn't want to write a posting that said we should remain silent about anything. If it came across like that then it was a mistake.
>I was arguing against any special or even proactive treatment of Apple by ourselves. Mikel sounded as if he wanted to invest time in investigative work: What does Apple do exactly, how could we perhaps help them, they may not talk to us but if we try hard enough maybe we can pry open some kind of channel to them.
>Whereas my position is: We're here, we're listening, but if you don't wanna talk then you don't have to. That's why I mentioned the license; unlike with commercial geodata, where I'm pretty sure someone like Apple will talk to those they buy data from before using it, Apple is within their rights to take our data and not talk to us if they so please.
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