[Osmf-talk] a receding opportunity

Julio Costa Zambelli julio.costa at openstreetmap.cl
Mon Oct 1 15:38:45 UTC 2012


Same situation here in Chile. The CEO of the biggest local commercial
maps company (and local Google Maps/Earth partner) blamed OSM for the
iOS6 Maps problems in a radio interview (http://goo.gl/zkBZE) and a
couple of columns in the media (http://goo.gl/20ORm and

In a twitter discussion in between the radio interview and the columns
I told him that he was lying and gave him the evidence of what I was
saying (essentialy that all the iOS6 Maps problems that he mentioned
here in Chile do not exist in OSM and that Apple is not using OSM
anywhere in the country).

I finally wrote an Op-Ed column in the local OSM blog
(http://goo.gl/zl5Tl) explaying the whole situation and the scam that
he is trying to pull out. Tweeted the link to all the people involved
(the CEO, the journalists, the media editors and owners, etc.). Our
media is not the most autocritical or honest one so I do not have many
hopes that they will give us the right of reply.


Julio Costa Zambelli
OpenStreetMap Chile

julio.costa at openstreetmap.cl

Cel: +56(9)89981083
Postal: Casilla 9002, Correo 3, Viña del Mar, Chile

On 1 October 2012 06:00, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> On 10/01/12 11:52, Christian Quest wrote:
>> We have been posting additional comments to explain that almost no OSM
>> data was used in France... so blaming OSM was inappropriate.
> In Japan, a commercial map provider has tried to cash in on the PR by saying
> how their own mapping product was so much better than Apple's because Apple
> used "incorrect and outdated OSM data". This was reported in a NYT article
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/technology/apple-maps-errors-send-japanese-to-homegrown-app.html
> This also appeared in the print edition. A follow-on piece, online only,
> later said that
> (quote)
> "Meanwhile, contributors to the crowd-sourced service OpenStreetMap Japan
> reacted angrily to suggestions by Mapion, a local Japanese map provider,
> that the crowdsourcing may have been behind errors in Apple’s maps.
> “From what I have seen, it appears that the majority of the data is not
> coming from OSM,” Woll Newall, a contributor to the service, said in an
> e-mail. “From the reported errors that I have looked at, it appears that, in
> all cases, OpenStreetMap is more accurate than the data that Apple is
> displaying and does not have the reported problems.”
> (end quote)
> It is of course unfortunate to have the misinformation uncorrected in the
> print issue, but personally I love it when (ideally local) contributors take
> such issues up with the press because it is a ton more authentic to have "a
> contributor to the service" complain than OSMF headquarters issuing a press
> release. Everyone is a cynic when it comes to press releases, and rightly
> so; but OSM has real people out there.
> Bye
> Frederik
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