[Osmf-talk] How to vote to match your view

Oliver Kühn oliver at osmfoundation.org
Mon Dec 1 20:10:52 UTC 2014


+1

I suggest to have stricter moderation on this list as we see an 
increased amount of bullshitting.

Am 01.12.2014 um 20:58 schrieb Steve Coast:
> I don’t think that was really necessary, and it’s not particularly 
> true either.
>
>
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Johan & Marguerite <textline at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:textline at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> 2014-12-01 12:40 GMT+01:00 Henk Hoff<toffehoff at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:toffehoff at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>     Like I said, there are many ways how to introduce term limits. I
>>     all depends
>>     on what problem you want to solve.
>>
>>
>> Since voting in favour of Special Resolution 1 means voting against 
>> you continuing your Board work it could be that SR 1 was drafted up 
>> because you are being seen as the problem. Why? Well, maybe because 
>> you were active in organizing SOTM's without drafting up meeting 
>> notes, maybe it was because you didn't share the full member lists to 
>> other board members. I wish the membership wisdom in voting.
>>
>> Cheers, Johan
>>
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: Ilya Zverev [mailto:ilya at zverev.info <mailto:ilya at zverev.info>]
>> Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2014 12:06
>> Aan: Henk Hoff
>> CC:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org <mailto:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Osmf-talk] How to vote to match your view
>>
>>
>>     You are opposing term limits. It's not "this proposal vs. better
>>     one", it's
>>     term limits or status quo. You (and the rest of the Board) had a
>>     week to
>>     discuss and fix Simon's resolutions, and three weeks to come with an
>>     alternative proposal (and it's the Board who set the deadline).
>>
>>     This behaviour, "do perfectly or do nothing", is what have been
>>     hindering
>>     OSM development for past years, and I hope the new Board would
>>     actively
>>     oppose that. We are not a multimillion industry that would lose
>>     stocks
>>     because of non-perfect actions.
>>
>>     Passing these resolutions is exactly the way to attract more good
>>     people to
>>     do things. It's not like Board members who step down suddenly
>>     would lose all
>>     will to help OSM because of that.
>>
>>     IZ
>>
>>     > Where does it say that I'm opposing term limits?
>>
>>     > I'm opposing term limits as stipulated in the current resolutions.
>>     > There are many other ways in how you could introduce term limits.
>>     > The resolutions are unbalanced proposals. We need to have a
>>     situation
>>     > where we can attract good people to do things. Not to shut
>>     people out.
>>
>>     > Henk
>>
>>     > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>     > Van: Paul Norman [mailto:penorman at mac.com
>>     <mailto:penorman at mac.com>]
>>
>>     > Term limits have been supported by Richard Weait, Frederik, Martin,
>>     > Marek, Kathleen, Steve Coast, Mikel, Johan, Randy, Ethan, and
>>     myself.
>>
>>     > Term limits have been opposed by Oliver, Peter, and Henk.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>     IZ
>>
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