[Osmf-talk] How to vote to match your view

[nebulon42]

Speaking of moderation: Who decides what the truth is? You?
To an uninformed person this may sound like the "establishment" trying
to shut up critics. A board member like you should be more careful
choosing the tone of his messages, even if this mail by Johan was
definitely not nice (so others should choose their tone more wisely
too).

nebulon42

Am Montag, den 01.12.2014, 21:10 +0100 schrieb Oliver Kühn:
> +1
> 
> I suggest to have stricter moderation on this list as we see an
> increased amount of bullshitting.
> 
> Am 01.12.2014 um 20:58 schrieb Steve Coast:
> 
> > I don’t think that was really necessary, and it’s not particularly
> > true either. 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Johan & Marguerite
> > > <textline at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 2014-12-01 12:40 GMT+01:00 Henk Hoff <toffehoff at gmail.com>:
> > >         Like I said, there are many ways how to introduce term
> > >         limits. I all depends
> > >         on what problem you want to solve.
> > >         
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Since voting in favour of Special Resolution 1 means voting
> > > against you continuing your Board work it could be that SR 1 was
> > > drafted up because you are being seen as the problem. Why? Well,
> > > maybe because you were active in organizing SOTM's without
> > > drafting up meeting notes, maybe it was because you didn't share
> > > the full member lists to other board members. I wish the
> > > membership wisdom in voting.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Johan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: Ilya Zverev [mailto:ilya at zverev.info]
> > > Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2014 12:06
> > > Aan: Henk Hoff
> > > CC: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Osmf-talk] How to vote to match your view
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         You are opposing term limits. It's not "this proposal vs.
> > >         better one", it's
> > >         term limits or status quo. You (and the rest of the Board)
> > >         had a week to
> > >         discuss and fix Simon's resolutions, and three weeks to
> > >         come with an
> > >         alternative proposal (and it's the Board who set the
> > >         deadline).
> > >         
> > >         This behaviour, "do perfectly or do nothing", is what have
> > >         been hindering
> > >         OSM development for past years, and I hope the new Board
> > >         would actively
> > >         oppose that. We are not a multimillion industry that would
> > >         lose stocks
> > >         because of non-perfect actions.
> > >         
> > >         Passing these resolutions is exactly the way to attract
> > >         more good people to
> > >         do things. It's not like Board members who step down
> > >         suddenly would lose all
> > >         will to help OSM because of that.
> > >         
> > >         IZ
> > >         
> > >         > Where does it say that I'm opposing term limits?
> > >         
> > >         > I'm opposing term limits as stipulated in the current
> > >         resolutions.
> > >         > There are many other ways in how you could introduce
> > >         term limits.
> > >         > The resolutions are unbalanced proposals. We need to
> > >         have a situation
> > >         > where we can attract good people to do things. Not to
> > >         shut people out.
> > >         
> > >         > Henk
> > >         
> > >         > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >         > Van: Paul Norman [mailto:penorman at mac.com]
> > >         
> > >         > Term limits have been supported by Richard Weait,
> > >         Frederik, Martin,
> > >         > Marek, Kathleen, Steve Coast, Mikel, Johan, Randy,
> > >         Ethan, and myself.
> > >         
> > >         > Term limits have been opposed by Oliver, Peter, and
> > >         Henk.
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
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> > >         
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         IZ
> > >         
> > >         
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