[Osmf-talk] Some ideas

Ilya Zverev ilya at zverev.info
Thu Oct 30 07:34:17 UTC 2014

Hi. Most of the candidates elected (and present on the list now) had big 
manifestos about where the board is now and how they see its future. 
Well, look where it got us.

I'm not a politician, and probably not a good manager. But I assume I 
know what makes participating in OSM — as a mapper, as a programmer, as 
a writer — fun. We have seven^W four people on board, is there a signle 
one of them who would (or have) spare their time for simple, but visible 
organizational improvements, like those I listed? What do you have to 
show for being an OSMF or OSM member? All I've got for previous posts is 
"everything is great, changing it would lead to the OSM demise, and you 
haven't though all that over good enough". Well, isn't that what Board 
is for?

And I'm not saying I won't be working towards those tasks. It's just 
that would be much easier with a young and active board. Steve's 
candidacy just undoes most of what has been done for past 3-4 years and 
prevents us from going forward. That's why I am pro-reboot: the whole 
process, the mindset of OSMF Board members should be changed. Sorry if 
it looks childish, I'm not very good at sophisticated wording.

How many times it should be said, that OpenStreetMap is not the map and 
not the software — it's the community. If we lost our entire planet 
database overnight, the community is strong enough to map it from 
scratch, as license change has shown. The community is our biggest 
strength, so the Board should not restrict itself to protecting the 
database — it should protect and grow the community. I don't see anybody 
catering to that. All I see in manifestos are maps (addresses), 
software, transparency — excellent goals, but what's left for the 
community to do? It's like nobody outside OSMF even exists.


On 10/30/2014 10:00 AM, Nick Hocking wrote:
> Ilya Zverev wrote  "Hi! I was planning to put my name in the candidates
> list, but after
>   Steve appeared, I decided not to."
> ..... and that's as far as I read.
> When politicians are running for re-election, they usually make
> statements like
> if elected we will......
> give everyone a tax cut
> put more money into arts/sport/health/social welfare
> concentrate on border protection
> fight crime aggressively  etc.
> *not*
> we will have cabinet meetings on Mondays instead of Wednesdays.
> we will gag senator XXX if he gets too loud too often
> we will distribute our mailing lists every Tuesday lunchtime.
> I won't run for election if senator yyy runs.
> We've only had about two posts in this whole flame fest that have said
> anything about where (and how) OSM is, or should be going. Maybe this is
> where the board could productively spend some of it's energies.
> Sure , it's important that the board works effectively, but if they
> don't have a vision for OSM and how to improve it  (note I said OSM
> *not* OSMF) then they're not talking about things that really matter to
> OSM contributors (IMHO).
> Nick
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