[Osmf-talk] Communications and osmf-talk (Was: Reaching out and diversity (Was: Re: AGM and board elections))

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Tue Sep 30 20:02:28 UTC 2014


Hi Oleksiy

You raise a number of good points which I fully agree with, but, welcome
the brave new world of the Internet and Social-Media, it should be
applied to communications in a group as a whole.

Looking back at the thread, I'm sure multiple of the participants were
not aware that it was only part of a larger web of communication some of
which goes back to the first half of this year, contains old bones that
are still being picked, stuff that the OSMF was not involved in at all
and parallel threads on twitter, irc and other social media (and now svn
trac).

You simply can not assume that you are getting the full picture and are
participating on a single continuous thread of communication between all
participants.

Nothing we can do about this, but I suspect the utility of osmf-talk as
a semi-private mailing list has outlived itself given that the model
actively provokes parallel comms. I would suggest either doing away with
it completely or scoping it strictly to OSMF business.

There are other reasons to believe that reasoned discourse is not going
to work in an environment where you can simply go off in a huff and have
your own public platform with hand picked audience that will +1
everything you say.

Simon




Am 30.09.2014 11:42, schrieb Oleksiy Muzalyev:
> Good morning,
>
> I noticed several obvious communication errors in the discussions of
> recent days:
>
> - Usage of rude words. In verbal communication people can see that a
> speaker smiles, can feel the charisma of a person, but in a written
> communication they see just a rude word and can misinterpret the
> message. So it would be better to avoid rude words in an e-mail.
> Polite words, hard arguments.
>
> - The very moment a participant starts to use an impolite harsh tone,
> the argument is lost. Ungraciousness is a sign of weakness.
>
> - If one receives an e-mail with uncivil undertones, the best strategy
> is not to get involved into a rough exchange, not to declare "I go
> away" in a childlike manner, but to answer in a short, technocratic,
> businesslike way. Completely ignoring the discourteous part of a
> message is a very strong answer in itself. /"Silence is one of the
> hardest arguments to refute."/ /Josh Billings
>
> -/  A French mathematician, physicist, inventor, writer and
> philosopher Blaise Pascal wrote: "I would have written a shorter
> letter, but I do not have time" [1].
>
> - More than 80% of people who make a suggestion or a complaint
> (statistics from a claim handling training course) just want to
> /"improve the world"/. A sincere answer: "we see what you mean, and we
> will try harder" is enough, more often than not.
>
> With best regards
> Oleksiy
>
> [1] /"Je voudrais avoir écrit une lettre plus courte, mais je n’en ai
> pas le temps."// / http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal
>
>
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