[Osmf-talk] Hiring help for OSMF administrative tasks

[Mark Iliffe]

As opposed to us having polarised opinions, isn't this a procedural point that should be voted upon by the wider OSMF. It always seems to be the same people and same opinions, why don't we vote?

Best,

Mark

> On 11 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Joseph Reeves <iknowjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >I have been and I am still a big oponent to paying staff. We're a
> >community project, so either put your time in for free or step
> >down and let others do the work. Let us try to not make the same
> >mistakes as WMF did.
> 
> And if the community decide that none of them wanting to be doing x hours a week on paperwork and would rather pay someone to do it?
> 
> A community project can still hire staff, especially if the community fails to provide the people interested in doing it. That's understandable - who gets involved for the joy of mapping and then moves to the joy of administrata? 
> 
> "Community projects shouldn't employ staff" is guff, sorry.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 March 2015 at 10:52, Peter Barth <osm at won2.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Frederik, you may possibly already know my opinion and I'd like
>> to state it publicly.
>> 
>> I have been and I am still a big oponent to paying staff. We're a
>> community project, so either put your time in for free or step
>> down and let others do the work. Let us try to not make the same
>> mistakes as WMF did.
>> 
>> Anyway, what really upsets me when reading your mail: Every member
>> talked about transparency in their manifestos, everyone had one or the
>> other plan. And indeed, there had been *one* summary of a board
>> meeting written by Paul, but that's been all. There had been another
>> article stating how cool the f2f meeting was and how well everyone
>> played with the others. But honestly, I'm not interessted in that but
>> in the results, in your work,.. just by accident someone discovered
>> there will not be a SOTM this year, why isn't that published? I had
>> to wait several weeks to learn about your plans of hiring staff. For
>> what? You don't even know, you're asking us.
>> 
>> I'm really disapointed. Not by you (Frederik) but by you, the
>> OSMF-board. Nothing changed, it just got worse.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Peda
>> 
>> 
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