[Osmf-talk] Hiring help for OSMF administrative tasks

[Joseph Reeves]

>I sense a misconception there, nobody is doing hours a week on paperwork
>in the OSMF.

Ok, thanks for clarifying. My point about *x* hours of admin was that, of
course, I didn't know how much x actually was. My main argument being that
the OSMF should make decisions about paid staff based on workload and need
rather than the ideology of "the community".

Cheers, Joseph



On 11 March 2015 at 14:32, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:

>
>
> Am 11.03.2015 um 15:03 schrieb Joseph Reeves:
> >>I have been and I am still a big oponent to paying staff. We're a
> >>community project, so either put your time in for free or step
> >>down and let others do the work. Let us try to not make the same
> >>mistakes as WMF did.
> >
> > And if the community decide that none of them wanting to be doing x
> > hours a week on paperwork and would rather pay someone to do it?
> >
>
> I sense a misconception there, nobody is doing hours a week on paperwork
> in the OSMF. Paperwork in the sense of filing, accounting (outsourced)
> and so one, in other words shifting paper from one side of the desk to
> another.
>
> Yes there is a lot of work that is not directly mapping, contributing to
> the data and helping other mappers.
>
> Foremost and, with an order of magnitude more hours than anybody else,
> the good people that keep the technical operations running.
>
> Then there is a significant amount of work answering legal questions and
> discussing policy wrt licensing and similar things and so on. And then
> there's the CWG and the more fundamental board activities like budgeting
> and so on.
>
> Now one thing that has been suggested in the past, is that "the job"
> would be to actually chase board members and WGs down and get them to
> deliver. While this could actually work to a certain point (any manager
> who has had their life essentially organised by their PA can vouch for
> that), it implies more, not less work for the volunteers.
>
>
> > A community project can still hire staff, especially if the community
> > fails to provide the people interested in doing it. That's
> > understandable - who gets involved for the joy of mapping and then moves
> > to the joy of administrata?
> >
> > "Community projects shouldn't employ staff" is guff, sorry.
> >
> >
>
> Simon
>
>
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