[Osmf-talk] Candidacy: OSMF Board

[Ben Abelshausen]

>
> Actually this seems to be the time honoured deflection tactic that we've
> seem so often on this list: focus on the form (undoubtedly some of the
> adjectives used could have been chosen better), minor details and then
> start mincing words around that to move focus from the actual issue at hand,


Same as Joseph, that's what I disagree with. We are not 'mincing words' and
using a 'deflection tactic'. The reason we are discussing form is the form
of Severin's message not it's content.

It's also a bit strange to assume I, or others here, have a tactic and an
agenda that needs defending. I'm just a member of the OSMF who sees another
member treated without respect and I can't resist speaking out anymore.

Should we limit discussion just to those that can deliver their opinions in
> perfect form?
>

Yes, but without the word 'perfect'. I do believe we should limit the
discussions in form but not content. We obviously don't need perfection,
just common decency. Is that so much to ask?

Every time, really every time Severin has spoken out about HOT in public,
> people have jumped on his imperfect delivery of the message. Its a shame
> that he doesn't improve on it, because it always ends the same way, the
> delivery is discussed, not the message.


Exactly, it's normal we're discussing this every time because it's the same
every time. Next time we'll probably have the same discussion, why not just
send a decent message so we can discuss content?

It's interesting, should a board member be a devoted mapper and some of the
other issue are valid too but how can we ignore the way we treat Heather.
And I say 'we' because this is our collective responsibility, even if it's
one member doing the harm.

Cheers,
Ben

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Christoph Hormann <chris_hormann at gmx.de>
wrote:

> On Thursday 23 November 2017, Simon Poole wrote:
> >
> > Every time, really every time Severin has spoken out about HOT in
> > public, people have jumped on his imperfect delivery of the message.
> > Its a shame that he doesn't improve on it, because it always ends the
> > same way, the delivery is discussed, not the message.
>
> Have you considered that this might be a significant part of the
> message?
>
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