[Osmf-talk] Board members with similar background (was: 2018 a third episode...)
chris_hormann at gmx.de
Fri Dec 14 11:34:37 UTC 2018
On Friday 14 December 2018, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> You brought up "culture" as a reason to limit HOT US Inc voting
> members being part of the OSMF Board. You have also brought up
> Tobias' proposal to "limit board members from the same org to 1
> seat". But unless the OSM Wiki is badly outdated regarding FOSSGIS
> e.V. membership, Tobias is himself violating his own proposal
> because Frederik and Tobias are both members of FOSSGIS e.V. [...]
Since i explained at length the difference between HOT membership and
open/paid membership organizations like the OSMF and FOSSGIS this seems
a fairly cheap and transparent attempt to discredit Tobias.
Trying to equate the exclusive invitation based HOT membership club with
an open membership Verein like FOSSGIS is just ridiculous.
In addition to the different nature of the membership there is another
very fundamental difference between HOT and OSM related corporations on
the one hand and organizations like FOSSGIS on the other:
HOT depends on OSM and could not exist without it while OSM could
perfectly exist without HOT.
Both FOSSGIS and OSM could each perfectly function without each other.
And even if you interpret the suggestion from Tobias to apply to FOSSGIS
membership, why do you assume that Tobias cannot want to introduce a
rule that - once introduced - will require either him or Frederik to
leave the board? This is no different from Frederik advocating "let's
keep the business world out of the OSMF board altogether" - which would
disqualify himself as well. Apart from being somewhat atypically
selfless for a board member historically (term limits anyone?) this is
a perfectly reasonable approach to making politics.
All of this of course does not mean it would not be a perfectly valid
reason to consider the common cultural background of Frederik and
Tobias (they are both Germans after all) as a reason not to vote for
Tobias in the elections. I myself have always been somewhat
dissatisfied with two Germans on the board and thereby a German
over-representation but as long as other over-representations on the
board - like the ones mentioned: HOT members, people with business
connections to OSM - are much more severe and distorting for the
cultural balance i don't consider this a particularly significant
And by the way - if you look at the current board composition Germany is
clearly the least over-represented country in there. ;-)
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