[Osmf-talk] Communication style - moderation - CoC [was Re: Board members with similar background (was: 2018 a third episode...)}

Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org
Sun Dec 16 10:15:45 UTC 2018


could those who wish to pile in on Nicolas at least allow him to draw
some breath in between punches. He may be wrong or at least
exaggerating, but the way he's being treated here is almost as if you
wanted to prove him right on his "culture of violence"!

The WHO defines violence as

"the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual,
against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that
either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury,
death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation."

The line, in terms of online discussions, therefore is if you are in a
position of (relative) power and what you say or do is suitable to cause
psychological harm. You do not even have to have the intention to cause
psychological harm - it is enough if you intentionally "use power
against another person" and this then, even unintentionally, causes
psychological harm.

If someone is wrong, then you can just say that they are wrong and
explain why that is the case. If they say you did X, then you reply no I
did not do X and here's the links to 10 other times where I have already
explained that.

Maintaining decency in the face of accusations that (you believe) are
untrue or unfair is certainly difficult. But even if Nicolas were (and I
am not saying that he is, this is just a thought experiment) just a
troll aiming to prove how easy it is to make everyone else forget their
own standards of behaviour... would you want him to succeed?


PS: I am explicitly not saying this with a list moderator hat on. There
are other mailing lists in the OSM universe on which this exchange would
have led to several users being officially admonished if not given a
temporary block. Excluding OSMF members from this list here needs a very
high bar because it would deprive them of participation in
decision-making. Plus, it could happen that excluding someone from this
list would cause psychological harm, and then the moderator could be
accused of violence according to the WHO definition because they
"intentionally used power against another person that resulted in
psychological harm".

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