[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

[Seán Lynch]

2- There is a few independent productions online, but are their any
official OSM/F ones?

On 20 February 2018 at 12:43, Seán Lynch <seanlynch at umail.ucc.ie> wrote:

> Is there a series of how to contribute to OpenStreetMap online seminars?
> If there is I haven't seen them (I'm new). If not, that would be cool.
>
> On 20 February 2018 at 12:32, Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this conversation.
>>
>>
>> I think it is also about clear pathways for engagement.
>>
>> A thought exercise:
>> how might we reshape ourselves to improve software contributions? What is
>> the vision we have to support the working groups and engage more folks
>>
>> Some ideas:
>>
>> -ask for software contributions that value their time
>> -give credit/tell a good inclusive story
>> -product/project management (1 hour, 3 hour, 5 times a month asks)
>> -engage in human collaboration (kindness)
>> -be a community manager
>>
>> I am with Joost on this 'root cause' opportunity - track ideas, iterative
>> together, coordinate.
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> Heather Leson
>> heatherleson at gmail.com
>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson
>> Blog: textontechs.com
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually I think this is more  indicative of why software development is
>>> so inefficient in OSM than anything else.
>>>
>>> There are plenty of developers in OSM space, but when they do something
>>>
>>> - It is mainly ego driven, quite understandably so "if I spend my free
>>> time on something, I want the glory", with the result that it is nearly
>>> impossible to get people to work together on an existing project,
>>>
>>> - it is completely uncoordinated, the EWG just went through a process of
>>> gathering and prioritising important tasks, Bryan creates a parallel effort
>>> to bolster his election platform so we end up with duplication of effort
>>> even at a meta level, not to mention that most devs can't even be a****d to
>>> mention on the dev list that they intend to work on something and by that
>>> don't get important requirement information (for example information on
>>> GDPR related requirements).
>>>
>>> SImon
>>>
>>> Am 20.02.2018 um 08:57 schrieb joost schouppe:
>>>
>>> This discussion shows once again how great we are at generating smart
>>> ideas. That definitely is not our problem. But all ideas are equal and will
>>> only get executed if the one who posited them executes them. As the project
>>> becomes more complex, that means you can either play in a corner by
>>> yourself, or try to effect change as an individual. It also means power to
>>> the devs and the time-rich, not to the community at large. None of which is
>>> optimal.
>>> We need a way to turn a thread into competing ideas, and to turn winning
>>> ideas into actions. I'm not sure how we can do that, but I'm enthousiastic
>>> about Bryan Housel's just-do-it project of using a github issue tracker for
>>> that (see his position statement for the OSM-US elections [1]). I agree
>>> with emacsen that having such things run by a single developer is probably
>>> the worst possible solution, but I think this is a good enough idea to be
>>> worth a shot for being organised at OSMF level.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bhousel
>>>
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