[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

[Simon Poole]

Am 01.11.2019 um 14:53 schrieb Christoph Hormann:

> ...
> But we are really drifting very far from the original subject here.  The
> whole discussion of what is formally permissible in which jurisdictions
> is IMO massively besides the point for discussing the attribution
> guideline - which should be what the OSM community (and to be clear i
> am talking about the hobby mapper community here - not various
> corporate and institutional lobbyists) expects from users of their work
> under the ODbL in terms of attribution.  

It is very true that we are very very far from the actual subject at hand.

The fair use point just turned up to illustrate that there are limits on
what we can expect copyright to do for us (aka the tweets from private
individuals showing a map excerpt that Nuno pointed to) and there is no
point in getting upset over that there are such limitations.

> And this does not have to and
> should not align to what would be enforcable in a court of law in the
> most lenient jurisdiction in that regard world wide.

The attribution guideline doesn't even reference the concept at all (the
ODbL does so in 6.0) , but in the discussion around the use of OSM in
media we did discuss if it even makes sense to try and provide stricter
guidance for news reporting as that will have exceptions to copyright
law in many legislations (for a non-US example see
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/section/30) and if use of
OSM in fixtures and similar in fictional productions would be similar.
We can naturally argue with a moral and ethical requirement to provide
attribution outside of legal founding, but the difficulty is conveying
this to community members in such a way that it is clear that it will
depend on the specifics if this is "the law" or just a request on our
behalf.

BTW non-staged screen shot from a couple minutes back from my desktop
showing two "unattributed uses" of OSM (right now there are actually three):


None of these is intentional and all actually have attribution in the
non-cropped versions.

Simon


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