[Osmf-talk] attribution: board letter to facebook

[Nuno Caldeira]

well as written at the time 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F

Both licenses are “By Attribution” and “Share Alike”. You can read more 
about what these terms mean here: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License

So it's quite clear when we switched licensed, what the OSMF wants and 
what we expect from Corporate members. If they want to hide behind 
dubious interpretations of the license, i'm starting to agree with those 
that have suggested that we do not need to have members acting this way.

Às 22:59 de 08/11/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
> But your comparison was to two sources licensed under CC-BY and 
> CC-BY-SA (which have the same attribution provision), where the 
> attribution was not adjacent to the material that came from those 
> sources, so that is what my question was about.
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:54 PM Nuno Caldeira 
> <nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com <mailto:nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     I prefer attribution visibly as mentioned here by OSMF
>     https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#How_should_I_attribute_you.3F
>     clear, visible and in the corner of the map. not behing "i" that
>     1% will click on...if they manage to it hit...which isa bit hard
>     on mobile devices TBH.
>
>
>
>     Às 22:43 de 08/11/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
>>     Nuno, do you honestly prefer attribution further down the page
>>     than behind an (i) on the map? I think that the (i) on the map is
>>     much more likely to inform a user about the *map*.
>>
>>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:33 PM Nuno Caldeira
>>     <nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Another interesting thing is that facebook doesn't have a
>>         issue for visibly attributing Wikipedia and Freebase. Scroll
>>         down at this example page at
>>         https://www.facebook.com/pages/Madeira-Natural-Park/113857212034096?rf=152605491445324
>>
>>         or
>>         https://www.facebook.com/pages/Peneda-Ger%C3%AAs-National-Park/104009266303334?rf=112523248763549
>>
>>         Printscreen of the visible attribution.
>>         https://i.ibb.co/8Y5V2dp/aaaa.jpg
>>
>>         So the issue is either our license or them and mapbox not
>>         knowing about attribution (which i highly doubt since they
>>         are corporate members of OSMF and been repetitively been
>>         asked to comply). We will probably never know, since they
>>         never reply publicly neither does the board.
>>
>>
>>         Às 07:18 de 10/10/2019, Rihards escreveu:
>>>         We all are overjoyed when OSM data is used more and more.
>>>         And we all are happy when big players like Facebook use OSM data.
>>>
>>>         Sometimes in a rush they might miss properly attributing OSM, and
>>>         getting to somebody who can fix it is hard (it's a big company after all).
>>>
>>>         Perhaps OSMF members can ask the board for a favour - sending a short,
>>>         polite letter to Facebook, asking to give mappers a fuzzy feeling and
>>>         add a proper attribution?
>>>
>>>         Discussing multiple steps (a direct letter first, then a public letter,
>>>         then one directed to their copyright contacts etc) is likely out of
>>>         scope for this thread.
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