[Osmf-talk] attribution: board letter to facebook

[Kathleen Lu]

Nuno, you still haven't answered my question, which was: Do you believe the
attribution in the format of the attribution to Wikipedia and Freebase on
that page better conveys the attribution information to users?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 5:03 PM Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com>
wrote:

> well as written at the time
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F
>
> Both licenses are “By Attribution” and “Share Alike”. You can read more
> about what these terms mean here:
> http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License
>
> So it's quite clear when we switched licensed, what the OSMF wants and
> what we expect from Corporate members. If they want to hide behind dubious
> interpretations of the license, i'm starting to agree with those that have
> suggested that we do not need to have members acting this way.
> Às 22:59 de 08/11/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
>
> But your comparison was to two sources licensed under CC-BY and CC-BY-SA
> (which have the same attribution provision), where the attribution was not
> adjacent to the material that came from those sources, so that is what my
> question was about.
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:54 PM Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I prefer attribution visibly as mentioned here by OSMF
>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#How_should_I_attribute_you.3F
>> clear, visible and in the corner of the map. not behing "i" that 1% will
>> click on...if they manage to it hit...which isa bit hard on mobile devices
>> TBH.
>>
>>
>>
>> Às 22:43 de 08/11/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
>>
>> Nuno, do you honestly prefer attribution further down the page than
>> behind an (i) on the map? I think that the (i) on the map is much more
>> likely to inform a user about the *map*.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:33 PM Nuno Caldeira <
>> nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Another interesting thing is that facebook doesn't have a issue for
>>> visibly attributing Wikipedia and Freebase. Scroll down at this example
>>> page at
>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Madeira-Natural-Park/113857212034096?rf=152605491445324
>>>
>>> or
>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Peneda-Ger%C3%AAs-National-Park/104009266303334?rf=112523248763549
>>>
>>> Printscreen of the visible attribution.
>>> https://i.ibb.co/8Y5V2dp/aaaa.jpg
>>>
>>> So the issue is either our license or them and mapbox not knowing about
>>> attribution (which i highly doubt since they are corporate members of OSMF
>>> and been repetitively been asked to comply). We will probably never know,
>>> since they never reply publicly neither does the board.
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 07:18 de 10/10/2019, Rihards escreveu:
>>>
>>> We all are overjoyed when OSM data is used more and more.
>>> And we all are happy when big players like Facebook use OSM data.
>>>
>>> Sometimes in a rush they might miss properly attributing OSM, and
>>> getting to somebody who can fix it is hard (it's a big company after all).
>>>
>>> Perhaps OSMF members can ask the board for a favour - sending a short,
>>> polite letter to Facebook, asking to give mappers a fuzzy feeling and
>>> add a proper attribution?
>>>
>>> Discussing multiple steps (a direct letter first, then a public letter,
>>> then one directed to their copyright contacts etc) is likely out of
>>> scope for this thread.
>>>
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>>
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