[Osmf-talk] Working with Dorothea full-time

[Christoph Hormann]

On Saturday 09 November 2019, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> You asked what assessment I based the approximate cost figure on. You
> inferred a hourly rate from this. You assumed that we would be paying
> social security, health/retirement insurance, and office
> infrastructure and communication costs. You concluded that the
> numbers you arrived at were "very low" (you did not say if you were
> making this judgement based on average wages and cost of living in
> Greece, the UK, or Germany).

Note my "assumption" of various things being included in the numbers is
based on reading that you specified it as cost for the OSMF.  No matter
how this is done contractually (as you said in an employment or
freelance setup) this is going to include the costs mentioned in some
form.  My assessment of EUR 17-23 being fairly low is based on my
experience with hourly rates in various contexts.  This AFAIK does not
vary that much between Greece, the UK and Germany.  But as said - it
seems low to me, i don't claim i know for sure it is low.

> I did, in my message, hint at the difficulty of being transparent
> about these issues. On the one hand, the OSMF members have a right to
> know what we do with the money. On the other hand, payroll and
> contract issues are sensitive because at the other end of the
> contract there's an individual with a right to privacy. These goals
> need to be balanced, just as the board's responsibility to be
> diligent in spending and its responsibility as a fair business
> partner or employer need to be balanced.

I understand that.  My interest on this matter is based on the feeling
of obligation as an OSMF member to help ensuring that the OSMF - when
paying people to work for them in any form, as employees or as
independent contractors, pays an appropriate compensation for that.  My
question about that is not meant to imply that you do not intend to do
that, it is meant to help us understand the data you provided on that.

I specifically have asked this question separately to make clear that
this is not part of my critique of the lack of transparency on the
matter (but could probably have been more explicit about that).

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