[Osmf-talk] Commitment to open communication channels

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Aug 18, 2020, 06:46 by heatherleson at gmail.com:

> Thanks again for the discussion and clarification.
>
> To confirm, communication and consultation will the "community" starts on open channels. Then, will equally be disseminated and continue dialogue on alternative channels used by the community. 
>
> When we consult and communicate, we recognize that not all parts of the community use the mailing lists or other open channels. As such, we aim to seek and consult across in a multi-channel way to be inclusive and reach the extensive community.
>
> However, if the goal is to only have consultation on spaces like the mailing list
>
? It seems weird, original post explicitly noted that posting on channels that are proprietary or 
controlled by third parties is perfectly fine as long as open channel is available.
It is also not changing status quo.

Noone proposed such goal, noone is proposing to ban FB/Twitter/Slack/Reddit use.

> , then OSMF has a responsibility to change the power on this list.
>
Can you be more specific? I am unsure why you think that OSMF must do something,
and what you mean by "change the power on this list".

Especially as it is based on idea that there is a ban on use of some communication channels. 

>  Meaning: while I comfortable asking questions & clarification (and winning a nobel prize for it), we clearly are some of the very same people always communicating and being consulted. 
>
It is kind of hard to force people to communicate and to give feedback.

> How will the board and this community ensure that open channels are "open"? 
>
For example by increasing number of people allowed to post here (and specifically
targeting here active mappers). What just happened.

>
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 00:21 Mikel Maron, <> mikel.maron at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>> That exists in part throught the OSM-Community-index. It shares channels for area of edit after changeset upload.
>>
>> It doesn’t have a link to latest news, and iD probably not the place for it. As Simon mentioned, would be a good addition to website itself
>>
>>
>> Mikel
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>> On Monday, August 17, 2020, 5:42 PM, Christopher Beddow <>> christopher.beddow at gmail.com>> > wrote:
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>>> Yes exactly on the forum! If it exists, what's the gap? It's the most open and independent method we have, correct? And I agree with Simon on linking to things in a visible way being a no-brainer. I also believe there were rumors of a plan to give more visibility to different OSM channels in the iD editor, particularly based on the current Map view--for example editing in Budapest you may get a link to OSM Magyarorszag/Hungary Facebook group, but also a link always to OSM Weekly, to the forum, and to any board-promoted diary entries or blog posts. But then have to consider this for Potlatch (2), JOSM, and more.
>>>
>>> But if using the forum as a default, and posting forum topics to Twitter and other platforms (like the r/OpenStreetMap twitter handle reposts Reddit threads) is a nice action after. I fully support that.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 15:16 Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk <>>> osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>>> > wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Aug 17, 2020, 22:55 by >>>> christopher.beddow at gmail.com>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Do we simply need an open source, OSMF hosted web forum? It's been the center point of many communities from video gamers to Star Wars fans to artists to botanists to car enthusiasts since at least the late 1990s.
>>>>>
>>>> Good news! >>>> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php>>>>  exists
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>>>> (it is a primary discussion place for some communities, for example Polish one
>>>> and IMHO quite decent balance between usability / tradition / open)
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