[Osmf-talk] clarification of the AoA amendment on board committees

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Fri Dec 4 11:57:24 UTC 2020


Dec 3, 2020, 23:23 by m at priorart.io:

> Rather than engaging the LWG and asking us to fix it, a completely new draft was created and the LWG has been told on a number of occasions that the Board will be voting imminently on this new draft without LWG input.
>
Interesting, I completely missed this. Is that new draft published somewhere?

>
> Based on my experiences on the LWG before and after Simon's departure, it does feel like the LWG has lost and is in the process of losing more and more of its remit.
>
> After years of painstaking work collecting community feedback through numerous SotMs, BoFs and other stakeholders (mostly done by Simon, Kathleen and others), the LWG put together > this draft <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Attribution_Guideline>>  that was basically discarded earlier this year. 
>
Mostly because it ignored community feedback and de facto
 attempted to claim that ODBL is waived on mobile devices[1].

I also suspect that "other stakeholders" means "interests of Mapbox and Facebook etc"
that in this case were strictly opposite to the interest of OpenStreetMap and should be
completely disregarded.

And yes, they would use OpenStreetMap data anyway also after they would
be forced to attribute OSM properly. They have no real alternative to OSM data,
especially Mapbox.

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Attribution_Guideline#Mobile_devices

"In addition, mobile devices may have attribution after one interaction. Examples of 
one interaction include “one click,” such as an icon or link that opens a pop-up or 
new webpage, or a swipe, drag, pinch, etc."

would mean that attribution violation such as 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/matkoniecz/illegal-use-of-OpenStreetMap/master/Mapbox/Mapbox_attributes_itself_2019-12-30.png
would became misleadingly described as acceptable
(enough space for Mapbox logo, and repeating company name three times
and fourth mention in URL itself -
not enough space to mention OpenStreetMap)
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