[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Casper van Battum cvanbattum at gmail.com
Thu Dec 10 12:05:10 UTC 2020


+1

I believe the entire point of such a call to action is to make 
lesser-heard voices heard. The whole purpose is to gauge community 
support for the idea or opinion. Disagreement is expected, but it's 2020 
and by now should know better than screaming louder than anyone else and 
instead have a constructive discussion about the points that are brought 
up in which everyone can safely contribute.

On 2020-12-10 12:17, Blake Girardot wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:22 AM Thomas Barris via osmf-talk
> <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> Why do you think such an OSM project as you want it is desirable for the majority of the community? I have signed up to this project to collect and share free geodata.  I am not in favour of using OSM(F) for distributing the questionable moral standards of a minority - and I don't mean minority in terms of gender, religion or color. If you have issues to deal with the way other cultures and communities express opinions, including exaggerations, direct speech and sometimes even discuss emotionally beyond the borders, you should not join an international project imho. Frederik's statement in question has nothing to do with diversity. He did not imply that gender, sex, relegion etc has something to do with the point he made. If you think his tone wasn't appropriate, just tell him and probably many will support you in this judgement.
> I will just point out a common pattern:
>
> 1. Someone speaks up about their experiences and how they and their
> colleagues feel we have inclusion issues and propose changes.
> 2. There is an unanswerable flood of emails by a few, but loud folks
> disagreeing and demanding proof, etc. Good for them I guess? Everyone
> should feel so confident sharing their very important views.
> 3. More folks feel drowned out, unheard, afraid to speak up, discouraged
> 4. The very few use the lack of other voices as proof "the community
> does not want this"
>
> Time to find a way to break this cycle.
>
> Best wishes,
> Blake
>
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