[Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Sat Dec 12 11:58:40 UTC 2020

OMG! Thank you Graeme for this atleast I know and most of us know that
there is a voice that coherently expressed our valid feelings right now.
Several of us feel the toxicity of the mailing lists that is why we dont
want to voice out. We are afraid of being judged by #editshamers and those
who mansplain to us that our opinions are not valid. Thank you for the
board for listening.

Virtual hugs!

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 7:38 PM Graeme Herbert <graemewh at gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn’t expect this to be the year in which I would break my vow of
> silence as far as this list is concerned, but here I am. It’s not a very
> happy situation, to be paying membership of the foundation and yet not
> feeling the slightest motivation to participate in the debates taking place
> here. I take my own share of the responsibility, I can be lazy and also I
> can easily find other things to do when confronted with a full inbox,
> mapping included. But the main reason is the often terrible atmosphere on
> this list.
>
> Too many contributions suffer from what I would call techlistitis, the
> belief that if your opinion is correct you are exempted from any obligation
> to treat people with different opinions with even minimal respect. I only
> speak for myself, but I do wonder about how many other people are watching
> this with a feeling of dismay and occasional dread as another reply comes
> in?
>
> Despite the silence here, I have voted in board elections for several
> years now. My policy until now has always been to vote for a broad range of
> candidates, not necessarily just those I would feel most in tune with. I
> want the board to have different shades of opinion represented. However
> this year, and after reading some of the contributions this week, I have
> decided to modify my policy - I’m not voting for candidates who don’t take
> seriously the issue of diversity and inclusion, or who might block action
> being taken.
>
> The problem exists, like it or not, and the ‘if you can’t stand the heat
> then find something else to do’ atmosphere that surfaces too often on this
> list is a reflection of that problem. It’s as if we have a shop with a
> “We’re open!” sign in the window, but no handle on the door for people to
> come in. I want a board that represents the community, but I also want one
> that will work to build a community that resembles the world that we are
> trying to map. Ultimately our best defence against the worries of corporate
> influence and sectorial interests is to have a larger community where there
> are no obstacles to participation.
>
> The code of conduct is not in itself a solution, but it is part of the
> solution. This is not over-sensitive snowflakery, it’s about mutual respect
> and making this work for everyone. I welcome the board taking action. This
> has been an awful year, horrific for many, and maybe these things don’t
> seem so important with everything else that is going on. But if in 2021 we
> can make participation in this list and other forums a pleasant and useful
> experience for people like me, and for people not like me, then I would
> consider that to be a significant win.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Graeme
>
> On 11/12/20 13:30, Allan Mustard wrote:
>
> I apologize if this is a duplicate, but I received notices from Google
> Mail that the message below sent to both osmf-talk and talk was not
> delivered "because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive
> mail."  I am therefore retransmitting the message using my home email
> address.  apm
>
>> To the OSM and OSMF communities:
>>
>> I convey the following information on behalf of the Board of Directors of
>> the OpenStreetMap Foundation.
>>
>> An outcome of the current controversy on the osmf-talk mailing list over
>> misogynistic language is a decision by the Board as follows:
>>
>> The Board will find partners to help instate a moderator team for the
>> OSMF-talk and talk mailing lists. These moderators need to have the
>> trust of the community subject to the moderation (consent of the governed)
>> by some kind of approval mechanism. This moderator team will start to
>> work on enforcing the current Etiquette guidelines as soon as possible. We
>> will also start work on updating/replacing our Etiquette rules, which must
>> focus on balancing all participants' interests.
>>
>> We have asked the Local Chapters and Communities Working Group (LCCWG )
>> to take the lead on this and to work with signatories of the open letter to
>> the Board [1] as well as members of the Diversity and Inclusion Special
>> Committee to produce proposals for the Board to consider at its January
>> meeting.  The LCCWG has accepted this task.  This issue will be on the
>> agenda of the January meeting of the Board of Directors, exact time and
>> date yet to be determined, though as is customary it will be posted to the
>> Foundation's website well in advance.
>>
>> Members of the OSM community are, as always, welcome to share their
>> opinions and any relevant information on this matter, either publicly via
>> osmf-talk, or privately in direct communications to the LCCWG.  I feel
>> compelled to remind all members of the community that a Code of Etiquette
>> [2] has existed since June 2011 and shall be observed by all community
>> members.
>>
>> Very best  regards to all,
>> apm
>>
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?ts=5fd11436#heading=h.ccgtgjykcfgh
>> [2] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Etiquette
>> -------
>> *Allan Mustard, Chairperson*
>> *Board of Directors*
>> *OpenStreetMap Foundation*
>>
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