[Osmf-talk] Idea for improved mapping system
Simon Poole
simon at poole.ch
Sun Oct 18 09:27:42 UTC 2020
Am 18.10.2020 um 10:18 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk:
> As usual with other stopped projects in OSM - people working on it
> abandoned it due to a lost interest.
At the danger of stating the obvious, these schemes have in all failed
because they were either not effective (the wiki badge stuff) or too
effective (essentially any gamification of mapping, including initial SC
btw) and have led to vandalism at larger scales and trying to suppress
that is too much work.
On a more philosophical note it is best for the project if we retain
mappers because they have a motivation to contribute, a desire for
completeness, participating in another activity that needs good map data
and naturally simply liking mapping, that is closely linked to map data
quality, not because they are being paid in one way or the other
(absolution is the most popular form, but money naturally too).
Simon
>
> Oct 18, 2020, 07:08 by naveenpf at gmail.com:
>
> Hello all,
>
> It would be really nice to have an awards or badges system inside
> OSM.
>
> Have seen a couple of pages on that in OSM wiki. (first saw on
> Mikel's userpage - North Star !!! )
> Don't know why it stopped ?
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Awards
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Awards>
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Badges
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Badges>
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 07:09, Christopher Beddow
> <christopher.beddow at gmail.com
> <mailto:christopher.beddow at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I feel like we could take the How Did You Contribute stats
> from Pascal Neis and prototype some badges based on that.
>
> Anyone could do this, just build it separately from the
> OpenStreetMap website, for now anyway, as a proof of concept.
>
> The stats are all there to analyze. Give somebody a badge for
> being a local expert inside a city or country, with a minimum
> number of changesets. Other badges based on adding, modifying,
> or deleting data. Maybe a Cleanup Specialist if deleting a lot
> for example.
>
> For bad changesets and edits, points and a gamification can
> help. If you get a flagged changeset, you get a message that
> you can fix it with help, and that you can earn a badge for it
> like a "Mentee Level 1", showing you have been approved by
> other Mappers for fixing a mistake, but you could get the same
> badge for making a series of perfect edits endorsed by an
> existing mapper. Or a bad edit blocks you from getting it, but
> you get informed that you can qualify if you work with
> somebody to fix the mistake. Motivational!
>
> Then badges based on data types: a road runner who adds a lot
> of roads, badges for fixing speed limits, a POI Hound, etc.
> Then maybe in apps like street complete or vespucci you can
> get recommended to fix or enrich the nearby map in a way
> that's tailored to your specialty.
>
> I would love to have little stickers or pins at a state of the
> map conference which show the badges I got on OSM, and I could
> find other Mappers who have a strange interest in adding
> utility poles or electric car chargers or hiking trails just
> like me. You could even have a badge for contributing to the
> map on every continent, or for contributing a minimum number
> with survey as a source, with GPS as a source, or a language
> badge for adding like 50+ place names in any particular
> language like Spanish or Swahili.
>
> You could set all this up outside OSM but any user could log
> onto this site and see what badges they qualify for. As I aid
> the data and stats all exist, just time to categorize them.
> I'm happy to help think about this.
>
> It would be fun to take some inspiration from scouting
> organizations (Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts etc) for merit badge
> scenarios which is separate from a sort of rank/title, and
> sketch out what helps a mapper qualify for these.
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 19:05 Clifford Snow
> <clifford at snowandsnow.us <mailto:clifford at snowandsnow.us>> wrote:
>
> Oscar,
> I saw your post on Slack and glad to see you are also
> posting on a mailing list. I'd suggest asking on the talk
> list, https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk>, to reach
> more people. The OSMF-Talk mailing list is for Foundation
> related issues. The Foundation is more about running the
> servers, licensing, etc. The Foundation isn't directly
> involved in day to day mapping. On the other hand, we are
> always looking for more Working Group volunteers. You can
> find a list of the Working Groups at
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups
> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups>. If
> anyone of the groups interests you, feel free to reach out
> to them. Each group has an email that you can contact them
> for more information.
>
> Best,
> Clifford
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 4:51 PM TheAdventurer64
> <little.banana.peel at gmail.com
> <mailto:little.banana.peel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> A user and I were talking about implementing a system
> for better mapping, as described here:
> https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1602968516431900
> <https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1602968516431900>
> This addition would have many benefits, including:
> * More mapping. We have tons of new mappers each day,
> as well as a great editor for them. However, many of
> these new mappers leave after just a few edits. Examples:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lukastheg03
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lukastheg03>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Th3Roomi3
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Th3Roomi3>
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