[Osmf-talk] Idea for improved mapping system

Craig Allan allan at iafrica.com
Sun Oct 18 16:15:12 UTC 2020


Dear List,

I am on the side of the cautious with concerns about badly implemented 
gamifying accidentally creating perverse incentives that will amount to 
vandalism.  Also, on a personal note,  I am old and have no real urge to 
return to my Boy Scout youth when I strove for little cloth achievement 
badges to sew onto my uniform.

But! I can clearly see the point of increasing the reward of mapping, 
especially for new mappers. If the way the reward is created emphasises 
notability and quality rather than the raw body count like a first 
person shooter then I can't see that any harm will be done.

The nice work on http://hdyc.neis-one.org that we are all familiar with 
shows a number of measures of mapper achievement which nobody seems to 
mind or regard as threats.

I look at it and I can see:

I'm #2 in Libya - wow!  [Country Achiever Badge]

I'm #13 in Kosovo - Hmm? How did that happen?    [Mystery Badge]

I can see I just hit 800k changes. Wow!    [800k Badge]

I have 5380 Osmose issues against my name :-( Ooops. Not doing so well 
there.  [Deeply Unhappy Badge]

So, as a limited experiment, perhaps we can create some pretty little 
badges, more like icons, based on the nice work that Pascal has done, 
and using his data (please?) post them up on the menu bar of the OSM 
website next to my name.  After "About" and before my little picture.  
They can be clickable too.  And then inside my profile page, if anyone 
cares to look, we can place some larger versions of the same badges, 
also clickable.

If we do that we are accepting and testing the badges idea and I think 
no harm will be done.

If we want to get very sophisticated, do it randomly for only half the 
users, then watch the stats for contributions in the test group and 
compare with the stats for contributions in the unmodified control 
group. If they are significantly different (or not) we can draw some 
meaningful numerical conclusions. I would love us to act in a rational 
evidence-based way.

Expanding the experiment to encouraging badge display in editor software 
can follow...if we get positive results.

hth.

Craig Allan

OSM:cRaIgalLAn

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On 2020/10/18 17:13, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 10/18/20 01:49, TheAdventurer64 wrote:
>> A user and I were talking about implementing a system for better
>> mapping, as described here:
>> https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1602968516431900

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