[Osmf-talk] Google Open Buildings now licensed ODbL

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

If they really wanted to be helpful, they'd let us use their overhead &
street imagery, which would then also help them!

Thanks

Graeme


On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 13:24, Martin Machyna <machyna at gmail.com> wrote:

> If we go with CC-BY 4.0 + waiver, would that solve the problem?
>
>
> As a side note, I don't think it is healthy for us to think about somebody
> as a competitor. We are here to create/gather geospatial data and provide
> it for free to everybody, not to compete with someone. As far as I know
> Google is not a data provider, but rather a provider of map services so if
> it is competing with someone it is more Mapbox, Geofabrik,... etc. Google
> has decided to help us and recently also started using our data, I think we
> should embrace it as a recognition of our hard work and use any help there
> is to fulfill our mission.
>
> Martin
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:41 PM Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 17.09.2021 um 17:02 schrieb Mikel Maron:
>> > Agreed this shouldn't be used for bulk import. Human reviewed
>> conflation and editing signal I think will be useful in some regions.
>>
>> It seems as if this is now available via RapiD and it is likely going to
>> be added come what may.
>>
>> I know nobody asked for my opinion, but I don't consider it a
>> particularly good idea that somebody will need to go back to google and
>> ask for their permission to retain the data if OSM ever decides it wants
>> to change its licence. While it is true that there have been, and
>> continue to be, other cases in which ODbL licensed data has been
>> imported (not that I consider that a particularly good idea in those
>> cases either), it hasn't been from a de facto competitor that is known
>> to change its policies at the drop of a hat.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> >
>> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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>> > On Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:54:53 AM EDT, <dfjkman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > As an example as to why it is not a good idea to use this data for a
>> bulk import have a look at this link of one small part of Lusaka (
>> https://sites.research.google/open-buildings/?lat=-15.390364893412949&lng=28.321204487879392&zoom=17#explore),
>> select the hybrid option to see how out it is. This shopping centre is
>> several years old.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Mikel Maron <mikel.maron at gmail.com>
>> > Sent: 17 September 2021 15:20
>> > To: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Google Open Buildings now licensed ODbL
>> >
>> > As agreed with Google, I've added Google Buildings to the list of
>> Contributors,
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Multiple_African_countries
>> >
>> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 12:29:52 PM EDT, Mikel Maron <
>> mikel.maron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > https://sites.research.google/open-buildings/#faq
>> >
>> > OSM can now use this data set. Very interesting change to see G support
>> OSM directly.
>> >
>> > Noting the prior discussion on quality issues on this list, expect to
>> see this more useful in peri-urban and rural areas. The FAQ notes the
>> importance of human review and when possible local knowledge
>> >
>> > -Mikel
>> >
>> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>> >
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