[Osmf-talk] OpenStreetMap Poland Local Chapter Application

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Mon Feb 1 22:24:46 UTC 2021

Feb 1, 2021, 22:49 by tim.couwelier at gmail.com:

> I may have skimmed over it, but right now I'm unclear about if that's an annual recurring fee, or a 'once at signup'. If membership is not tied to activity (or subscription renewal) you risk ending to struggle to reach voting quota in a few years.
> Is it common to have quota expressed as a ratio of the 'votes present' rather then total usercount?
'votes present' ensures that things will not deadlock with group of inactive members

No idea whatever it is a local standard and ended there by default 
or is it some weird invention (the same goes for membership
acceptance where idea of changing it sounds nice but would be probably
quite time-consuming - and no idea is it conflicting with something [not a lawyer]).


For fee - it is a yearly recurring fee, right now it is 1.8% of monthly minimum wage
in Poland (50 PLN = 11.1  Euro = 13.4$).

Fee waiving for activity is tricky, as from what I know basically all members 
are mappers and it would end with either 

- sponsorship - or The Sponsoring Anti-Pattern to be more exact. 
Single entity funding everything is a disaster waiting to happen and we
would be lucky to get one and no chance at all for some healthy diversification

- confusing "there is no fee, but you should pay fee because otherwise
we can't host anything interesting"

- zero or nearly zero funds what is likely suboptimal

Given that organization is tiny (in 2019 total budget was 2207 PLN = 490 Euro = 590$,
though note that it may increase in coming years due to increase of yearly fee done this year).

I suspect that for such tiny scale it may be better to have such fee to have some kind of stability...

> Please consider the above as well-meant questions / suggestions / considerations. It's by no means my intention to try and halt the process, but other may have similar questions (or answers) to the above.
> Op ma 1 feb. 2021 om 22:13 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk <> osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> >:
>> As one of local mappers from Poland I fully support this application.
>> And in my opinion this organization and people involved represent local mappers
>> and doing a good job (for example in case of some organizations having an official 
>> foundation is useful to be treated seriously).
>> Feb 1, 2021, 21:52 by >> rory.mccann at osmfoundation.org>> :
>>> Hello,
>>> You may be aware that Stowarzyszenie OpenStreetMap Polska has applied to become an official Local Chapter of the OpenStreetMap Foundation for Poland. As part of the application process, we would like to ask you, the OSMF membership, about this. Do you support this application? Do you have any questions, comments or concerns?
>>> You can find all the information about this Local Chapter application on the OSMF website: >>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications/Poland
>>> We will close this round of discussion two weeks from now (i.e. 14 Feb 2021).
>>> You can reply here or contact the OSMF Board privately: >>> board at osmfoundation.org
>>> Please tell anyone about this application who might be interested. We want feedback.
>>> I am looking forward to hearing your responses.
>>> Thank you to the OSM Poland team for this submission. 
>>> -- 
>>> Rory McCann
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