[Osmf-talk] Tagging standards

[Allan Mustard]

I lived in Vienna for four years and visited Budapest regularly, always 
stopped at Gerbeaud for Dobos and Esterhazy tortes.

I do believe that the time has come for a subset of curated tags. It 
will be a relatively small subset, but its time has come. I'm not the 
right person to grasp the nettle, however.

Thanks for the walnut cake.

apm

On 10/21/2022 7:21 PM, grin via osmf-talk wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:39:57 -0400
> Allan Mustard<allan at mustard.net>  wrote:
>
>> the point strikes me as an effort to differentiate between objects we
>> can all agree to define in the same way (e.g., building=retail,
>> highway=service)
> Oh no, the opposite! You innocently picked up my very deliberate example
> of "highway=service" which is _not_ well defined. I mentioned it on tagging-l
> and I am not satisfied with the "I believe", "I think", "looks like that"
> responses, and the wiki is self-conflicting.
>
> Some believe it's required that motorcars can go on it; others think it shall
> be an officially registered road and others believe the opposite; some think
> that it cannot connect roads for through traffic but to lead to some objects
> and others think it's not so. It became a problem when in Hungary the party
> state started to build "cycleways" without qualifying them as cycleways, and
> they are part of the registered road network but has no road numbers, so they
> would be unclassified... or service? Sometimes cars can go through. But often
> cars are legally forbidden.
>
> I do not ASK here what the definition is, that's the topic for tagging-l, but
> I wanted to show that "we do not all agree" without consulting the wiki and
> even the wiki doesn't agree with itself, so we're tagging a bit haphazardly.
>
> And then you go over to "highly localised". ;-)
>
>> Defining that subset could make good use of input from our growing
>> network of local chapters and communities, for as Frederik correctly
>> points out, OSM should not seek unduly to constrain how local mappers
>> map their own communities, and the local chapters and communities can
>> help inform the identification of universal tags not requiring localized
>> definitions.
> This is what matches best my opinion as well: define, not control. It works pretty well now, just sometimes need a bit work for the definitions and some fight on wiki with fellow wiki editors. ;-)
>
>> I'll go hide now so you can throw tomatoes at me.
> I will throw walnut cake. Catch carefully, eat. It's delicious. You can buy them in a cukrászda. :-P
>
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