[Osmf-talk] Awareness on Membership software (CiviCRM) issues under Membership WG and Board review

[John Whelan]

I accept that doing it manually is expensive to OSM however it should be 
possible to automate the process.

Also the cost to me is not 15 quid but close 16 quid by the time PayPal 
has given me a very poor exchange rate.

Cheerio John

> Paul Norman via osmf-talk <mailto:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
> August 9, 2024 12:55 PM
> On 2024-08-08 8:04 a.m., John Whelan wrote:
>
> For membership payments the OSMF prefers credit card or PayPal, or 
> direct debit where applicable 
> <https://supporting.openstreetmap.org/alternative-payment-options/>. 
> The costs of the time to manually process a SEPA transfer are greater 
> than what PayPal takes.
>
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> John Whelan <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> August 8, 2024 11:04 AM
> If we could get away from Paypal I'd be more than happy.
>
> When paying European invoices I just put the reference number on the 
> payment that goes directly to their bank.  That way I don't pay an 
> inflated exchange rate to paypal.
>
> I note that donations are accepted by bank transfers. 
> https://supporting.openstreetmap.org/
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
> Maggie Cawley <mailto:maggie at openstreetmap.us>
> August 8, 2024 10:36 AM
> Sorry to hear about this! Thanks for the update. We've had similar 
> issues with CiviCRM in the past affecting our elections due to bugs 
> like this w/ 3rd party integrations.
> If the org can swing it, I would highly suggest upgrading to a more 
> robust CRM. It's really helpful for organizational management, and 
> saves a lot of time.
>
> Cheers,
> Maggie
>
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> Philip Barnes <mailto:phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
> August 6, 2024 11:55 AM
> I have never had a problem with paypal and OSM using different email
> addresses. One just switches to the other and neither need to know the
> other email address.
>
> I do find that I have a paypal account, which is no use to me beyond
> OSM and do wish we used something more common such as a normal
> debit/credit card.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
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> John Whelan <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> August 6, 2024 11:16 AM
> Generally speaking there are two parts to a system.  The first is 
> defining the requirements and you don't need professional technical 
> expertise to do this and then implementing them for which you do need 
> technical expertise.
>
> I suspect Paypal only works easily for members who use the same email 
> address for paypal and OSM.
>
> Cheerio John
>
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