[Osmf-talk] Financial Transparency

[Simon Poole]

Regardless of if it was actually acted on or not (given that that is 
second-last set of minutes, no way I can know): "The Finance Committee 
agreed that monthly reports can be emailed to corporate members" is not 
in the least unclear and as such, even if it wasn't the intent, is a 
minute decision of the FC, and gives a new definition to "pure fiction".

Am 21.10.2024 um 12:35 schrieb Mikel Maron:
> > 
> https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Finance_Committee/Minutes/2024-05-22#Report_to_the_Advisory_Board 
>
>
> Something is lost in translation in these minutes and a couple threads 
> intertwined. It's not accurate.
>
> In Q2, I organized an Advisory Board meeting (which includes both 
> corporate members and local chapters), and I presented and discussed 
> the 2024 OSMF Budget (which was already publicly released). There was 
> really no substantial input from that discussion. I report on any 
> Advisory Board related conversations to the Board monthly.
>
> There has also been discussion on providing donors of larger corporate 
> gifts with updates. These would be less financial and more narrative 
> about progress on technical work. Again it would not be based on any 
> information that's not already public.
>
> If the FC were to start publishing reports more frequently than annual 
> (and I think they should and quarterly is a sensible pace), then any 
> direct communications about them with corporate members would be based 
> on that public information. So far this has not happened.
>
> -Mikel
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:06 AM Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>
>     https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Finance_Committee/Minutes/2024-05-22#Report_to_the_Advisory_Board
>
>     Am 21.10.2024 um 11:45 schrieb Mikel Maron:
>>     I don't disagree on the request -- would be good and no problem
>>     to publish more frequent financials and minutes.
>>
>>     But please do not spread falsehoods. "reconciled monthly
>>     financials available ... to corporate members" is pure fiction.
>>
>>     -Mikel
>>
>>     On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 5:38 AM Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>>
>>         At one time in the history of the OSMF a commitment was made
>>         by the
>>         board to provide the membership with regular (iirc at the
>>         time it was
>>         quarterly) financials. On and off this was done over the
>>         years, but it
>>         currently has lapsed for a long time. I'm the first person to
>>         agree that
>>         doing this is a lot of work with little gain, but as a matter of
>>         principle I would still think that this should be provided.
>>
>>         Browsing the Finance Committee minutes for this year it seems
>>         that a lot
>>         of progress has been made, and that there are actually
>>         reconciled
>>         monthly financials available internally and to corporate
>>         members, just
>>         not to the wider membership. That is, lets say, not a good
>>         look. I would
>>         suggest that these be made available, if necessary in
>>         redacted form, to
>>         all members.
>>
>>         Simon
>>
>>         PS: the minutes of the FC abruptly stop after June, I assume
>>         that is
>>         just an oversight?
>>
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