[Osmf-talk] Financial Transparency

[Mikel Maron]

No problem. We’ll publish a clarification to help with your confusion on
what I’ve told you here.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:42 AM Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:

> Regardless of if it was actually acted on or not (given that that is
> second-last set of minutes, no way I can know): "The Finance Committee
> agreed that monthly reports can be emailed to corporate members" is not in
> the least unclear and as such, even if it wasn't the intent, is a minute
> decision of the FC, and gives a new definition to "pure fiction".
> Am 21.10.2024 um 12:35 schrieb Mikel Maron:
>
> >
> https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Finance_Committee/Minutes/2024-05-22#Report_to_the_Advisory_Board
>
> Something is lost in translation in these minutes and a couple threads
> intertwined. It's not accurate.
>
> In Q2, I organized an Advisory Board meeting (which includes both
> corporate members and local chapters), and I presented and discussed the
> 2024 OSMF Budget (which was already publicly released). There was really no
> substantial input from that discussion. I report on any Advisory Board
> related conversations to the Board monthly.
>
> There has also been discussion on providing donors of larger corporate
> gifts with updates. These would be less financial and more narrative about
> progress on technical work. Again it would not be based on any information
> that's not already public.
>
> If the FC were to start publishing reports more frequently than annual
> (and I think they should and quarterly is a sensible pace), then any direct
> communications about them with corporate members would be based on that
> public information. So far this has not happened.
>
> -Mikel
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:06 AM Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Finance_Committee/Minutes/2024-05-22#Report_to_the_Advisory_Board
>> Am 21.10.2024 um 11:45 schrieb Mikel Maron:
>>
>> I don't disagree on the request -- would be good and no problem to
>> publish more frequent financials and minutes.
>>
>> But please do not spread falsehoods. "reconciled monthly financials
>> available ... to corporate members" is pure fiction.
>>
>> -Mikel
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 5:38 AM Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> At one time in the history of the OSMF a commitment was made by the
>>> board to provide the membership with regular (iirc at the time it was
>>> quarterly) financials. On and off this was done over the years, but it
>>> currently has lapsed for a long time. I'm the first person to agree that
>>> doing this is a lot of work with little gain, but as a matter of
>>> principle I would still think that this should be provided.
>>>
>>> Browsing the Finance Committee minutes for this year it seems that a lot
>>> of progress has been made, and that there are actually reconciled
>>> monthly financials available internally and to corporate members, just
>>> not to the wider membership. That is, lets say, not a good look. I would
>>> suggest that these be made available, if necessary in redacted form, to
>>> all members.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> PS: the minutes of the FC abruptly stop after June, I assume that is
>>> just an oversight?
>>>
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