[OSRM-talk] Bad driving times - Looking for car profile (within DACH region)

code lump codelump at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 12:20:38 UTC 2014


Hi,


unfortunately my server is not available to the public:

so this is my request.

http://localhost:5000/viaroute?z=14&output=json&loc=49.487459,8.466039&loc=47.677950,9.173238

my response:

https://gist.github.com/dcdieci/10019081

the driving time is 180 min. even though I have used this very fast
car.profile
google is calculating 164.
at the osrm website it is even worst with 220 min.

In case you need more details just drop me a line.
Help is highly appreciated.
Best,
Philip


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> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:06:51 +0200
> From: didier2020 <didier2020 at free.fr>
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> Subject: [OSRM-talk] mix kilometers and speed
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> hi,
>
> i wonder if osrm can mix kilometers and speed to calculate a route
>
> exemple:
> my car : 5l/100 km with 1l = 1.5 ? => 0.075? for one kilometer
> me : my time can be arround 16?/h
>
> so for a trip of 50 km, and 20 minutes
> => (50*0.075) + (20/60*16) = 3.75 + 5.33 = 9.08?
>
>
> thanks
> didier
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> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:17:12 +0200
> From: code lump <codelump at gmail.com>
> To: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [OSRM-talk] Bad driving times - Looking for car profile
>         (within DACH region)
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> Hi,
>
> I recently extracted data with different car profiles.
> But my driving time estimates are just not accurate.
> Actually they are very different from google and not usable.
>
> So I was wondering if there is anybody having a car profile for the DACH
> region ?
>
> My current settings are :
> speed_profile = {
>   ["motorway"] = 130,
>   ["motorway_link"] = 75,
>   ["trunk"] = 100,
>   ["trunk_link"] = 70,
>   ["primary"] = 100,
>   ["primary_link"] = 60,
>   ["secondary"] = 100,
>   ["secondary_link"] = 50,
>   ["tertiary"] = 70,
>   ["tertiary_link"] = 50,
>   ["unclassified"] = 50,
>   ["residential"] = 25,
>   ["living_street"] = 10,
>   ["service"] = 15,
> --  ["track"] = 5,
>   ["ferry"] = 5,
>   ["shuttle_train"] = 10,
>   ["default"] = 10
> }
>
> I look very much forward hearing form you.
>
> Best,
> Philip
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> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:20:18 +0200
> From: Emil Tin <ZF0F at tmf.kk.dk>
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> Hi Phillip,
> You need to describe in more detail why your travel times are not correct,
> otherwise no one will be able to help you.
> Can you provide concrete examples, with links to the routes?
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> region)
>
> Hi,
> I recently extracted data with different car profiles.
> But my driving time estimates are just not accurate.
> Actually they are very different from google and not usable.
> So I was wondering if there is anybody having a car profile for the DACH
> region ?
> My current settings are :
> speed_profile = {
>   ["motorway"] = 130,
>   ["motorway_link"] = 75,
>   ["trunk"] = 100,
>   ["trunk_link"] = 70,
>   ["primary"] = 100,
>   ["primary_link"] = 60,
>   ["secondary"] = 100,
>   ["secondary_link"] = 50,
>   ["tertiary"] = 70,
>   ["tertiary_link"] = 50,
>   ["unclassified"] = 50,
>   ["residential"] = 25,
>   ["living_street"] = 10,
>   ["service"] = 15,
> --  ["track"] = 5,
>   ["ferry"] = 5,
>   ["shuttle_train"] = 10,
>   ["default"] = 10
> }
> I look very much forward hearing form you.
> Best,
> Philip
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> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:44:42 +0200
> From: Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de>
> To: didier2020 <didier2020 at free.fr>
> Cc: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] mix kilometers and speed
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> On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:06:51AM +0200, didier2020 wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > i wonder if osrm can mix kilometers and speed to calculate a route
> >
> > exemple:
> > my car : 5l/100 km with 1l = 1.5 ? => 0.075? for one kilometer
> > me : my time can be arround 16?/h
>
> But this is not true for todays cars. Its consumption per km and
> travel speed. Yes - with the current downsizing of motors you get
> much lower fuel consumption on partial load e.g. the citys. But
> driving on the motorway you'll consume the same amount of fuel
> than having a 6 cylinder 3,5l engine. So its not fuel per time
> but fuel per km and road type.
>
> > so for a trip of 50 km, and 20 minutes
> > => (50*0.075) + (20/60*16) = 3.75 + 5.33 = 9.08?
>
> Flo
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> Florian Lohoff                                                 f at zz.de
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> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:49:55 +0200
> From: Michal Palenik <michal.palenik at freemap.sk>
> To: didier2020 <didier2020 at free.fr>
> Cc: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] mix kilometers and speed
> Message-ID: <20140407114955.GA30466 at tanicka.iz.sk>
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> does not the impedance variable solve all this?
>
> though i cannot find any example...
> michal
> On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:06:51AM +0200, didier2020 wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > i wonder if osrm can mix kilometers and speed to calculate a route
> >
> > exemple:
> > my car : 5l/100 km with 1l = 1.5 ? => 0.075? for one kilometer
> > me : my time can be arround 16?/h
> >
> > so for a trip of 50 km, and 20 minutes
> > => (50*0.075) + (20/60*16) = 3.75 + 5.33 = 9.08?
> >
> >
> > thanks
> > didier
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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