[OSRM-talk] Bad driving times - Looking for car profile (within DACH region)

code lump codelump at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 14:02:39 UTC 2014


Hi Carsten,

thanks for replying.
Is there any chance of optimizing this behavior in order to get accurate
driving times.
Do you have a sample car .profile which may I use ?

Thanks for helping out.

Best,
Philip


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Carsten Malchow <carsten64stadt at gmx.de>wrote:

> Hi Philip,
>
> it's looks like the same problem that was discussed last week, I think.
> OSRM take 2/3 of the Maxium speed to calculated the travel time.
> Look here:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org/msg00407.html
>
> Kind regards
>
> Carsten
>
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 07. April 2014 um 07:20 Uhr
> *Von:* "code lump" <codelump at gmail.com>
> *An:* osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [OSRM-talk] Bad driving times - Looking for car profile
> (within DACH region)
>    Hi,
>
>
> unfortunately my server is not available to the public:
>
> so this is my request.
>
>
> http://localhost:5000/viaroute?z=14&output=json&loc=49.487459,8.466039&loc=47.677950,9.173238
>
> my response:
>
> https://gist.github.com/dcdieci/10019081
>
> the driving time is 180 min. even though I have used this very fast
> car.profile
> google is calculating 164.
>  at the osrm website it is even worst with 220 min.
>
> In case you need more details just drop me a line.
> Help is highly appreciated.
> Best,
> Philip
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:50 PM, <osrm-talk-request at openstreetmap.org>wrote:
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>>    1. mix kilometers and speed (didier2020)
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>>    3. Re: Bad driving times - Looking for car profile   (within DACH
>>       region) (Emil Tin)
>>    4. Re: mix kilometers and speed (Florian Lohoff)
>>    5. Re: mix kilometers and speed (Michal Palenik)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:06:51 +0200
>> From: didier2020 <didier2020 at free.fr>
>> To: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: [OSRM-talk] mix kilometers and speed
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>> hi,
>>
>> i wonder if osrm can mix kilometers and speed to calculate a route
>>
>> exemple:
>> my car : 5l/100 km with 1l = 1.5 ? => 0.075? for one kilometer
>> me : my time can be arround 16?/h
>>
>> so for a trip of 50 km, and 20 minutes
>> => (50*0.075) + (20/60*16) = 3.75 + 5.33 = 9.08?
>>
>>
>> thanks
>> didier
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:17:12 +0200
>> From: code lump <codelump at gmail.com>
>> To: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: [OSRM-talk] Bad driving times - Looking for car profile
>>         (within DACH region)
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently extracted data with different car profiles.
>> But my driving time estimates are just not accurate.
>> Actually they are very different from google and not usable.
>>
>> So I was wondering if there is anybody having a car profile for the DACH
>> region ?
>>
>> My current settings are :
>> speed_profile = {
>>   ["motorway"] = 130,
>>   ["motorway_link"] = 75,
>>   ["trunk"] = 100,
>>   ["trunk_link"] = 70,
>>   ["primary"] = 100,
>>   ["primary_link"] = 60,
>>   ["secondary"] = 100,
>>   ["secondary_link"] = 50,
>>   ["tertiary"] = 70,
>>   ["tertiary_link"] = 50,
>>   ["unclassified"] = 50,
>>   ["residential"] = 25,
>>   ["living_street"] = 10,
>>   ["service"] = 15,
>> --  ["track"] = 5,
>>   ["ferry"] = 5,
>>   ["shuttle_train"] = 10,
>>   ["default"] = 10
>> }
>>
>> I look very much forward hearing form you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Philip
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:20:18 +0200
>> From: Emil Tin <ZF0F at tmf.kk.dk>
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>> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Bad driving times - Looking for car profile
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>> Hi Phillip,
>> You need to describe in more detail why your travel times are not
>> correct, otherwise no one will be able to help you.
>> Can you provide concrete examples, with links to the routes?
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>> DACH region)
>>
>> Hi,
>> I recently extracted data with different car profiles.
>> But my driving time estimates are just not accurate.
>> Actually they are very different from google and not usable.
>> So I was wondering if there is anybody having a car profile for the DACH
>> region ?
>> My current settings are :
>> speed_profile = {
>>   ["motorway"] = 130,
>>   ["motorway_link"] = 75,
>>   ["trunk"] = 100,
>>   ["trunk_link"] = 70,
>>   ["primary"] = 100,
>>   ["primary_link"] = 60,
>>   ["secondary"] = 100,
>>   ["secondary_link"] = 50,
>>   ["tertiary"] = 70,
>>   ["tertiary_link"] = 50,
>>   ["unclassified"] = 50,
>>   ["residential"] = 25,
>>   ["living_street"] = 10,
>>   ["service"] = 15,
>> --  ["track"] = 5,
>>   ["ferry"] = 5,
>>   ["shuttle_train"] = 10,
>>   ["default"] = 10
>> }
>> I look very much forward hearing form you.
>> Best,
>> Philip
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:44:42 +0200
>> From: Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de>
>> To: didier2020 <didier2020 at free.fr>
>> Cc: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] mix kilometers and speed
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>> On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:06:51AM +0200, didier2020 wrote:
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > i wonder if osrm can mix kilometers and speed to calculate a route
>> >
>> > exemple:
>> > my car : 5l/100 km with 1l = 1.5 ? => 0.075? for one kilometer
>> > me : my time can be arround 16?/h
>>
>> But this is not true for todays cars. Its consumption per km and
>> travel speed. Yes - with the current downsizing of motors you get
>> much lower fuel consumption on partial load e.g. the citys. But
>> driving on the motorway you'll consume the same amount of fuel
>> than having a 6 cylinder 3,5l engine. So its not fuel per time
>> but fuel per km and road type.
>>
>> > so for a trip of 50 km, and 20 minutes
>> > => (50*0.075) + (20/60*16) = 3.75 + 5.33 = 9.08?
>>
>> Flo
>> --
>> Florian Lohoff                                                 f at zz.de
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:49:55 +0200
>> From: Michal Palenik <michal.palenik at freemap.sk>
>> To: didier2020 <didier2020 at free.fr>
>> Cc: osrm-talk at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] mix kilometers and speed
>> Message-ID: <20140407114955.GA30466 at tanicka.iz.sk>
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>> does not the impedance variable solve all this?
>>
>> though i cannot find any example...
>> michal
>> On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:06:51AM +0200, didier2020 wrote:
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > i wonder if osrm can mix kilometers and speed to calculate a route
>> >
>> > exemple:
>> > my car : 5l/100 km with 1l = 1.5 ? => 0.075? for one kilometer
>> > me : my time can be arround 16?/h
>> >
>> > so for a trip of 50 km, and 20 minutes
>> > => (50*0.075) + (20/60*16) = 3.75 + 5.33 = 9.08?
>> >
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > didier
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> --
>> michal palenik
>> www.freemap.sk
>> www.oma.sk
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>>
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