[OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some commercial support to you/ your projects in return

Bjorn Madsen bm at multiagenttechnology.com
Tue Nov 24 15:26:19 UTC 2015


Splendid. Do you know who to get in touch with from Mapbox?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Emil Tin <ZF0F at tmf.kk.dk> wrote:

> Sounds great.
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> Regarding GPS data, perhaps this is something Mapbox would be interested
> in somehow processing. I think they’ve already worked on using GPS data to
> adjust speed estimates in OSRM for cars. They’re also working on extending
> OSRM so dynamic traffic data can be used to update the routing suggesting
> in near real-time.
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> Med venlig hilsen
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> *Fra:* Bjorn Madsen [mailto:bm at multiagenttechnology.com]
> *Sendt:* 24. november 2015 16:08
> *Til:* Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM
> *Emne:* Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some
> commercial support to you/ your projects in return
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> Hi Sander & Emil,
>
> Thanks for the quick responses. The usage of the lua script is
> particularly useful.
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> I completely respect the limitations of the demo server and can offer to
> set up another server to support the project. 20Tb of traffic should help?
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> I've been following the discussions on the OSM forum and they've discussed
> the quality of the map to a great extend.
>
> For planning purposes I appreciate that the main source of error is delay
> in updates. To counter that we are planning to use our commercial help-desk
> to collect information from drivers about detours and unrecorded obstacles
> so that OSM can get the updates with less than a days delay. We can also
> track some vehicles, and capture information such as slowdown caused by
> traffic jams, etc. on major roads. Hopefully this can become a valued
> source of information?
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> If somebody has a burning interest in accelerating this, then please feel
> free to get in touch for a sponsorship.
>
> That's the least I can do.
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> Kind regards
>
> Bjorn
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> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I'm writing this as an OSM mapper and user of the OSRM api, I'm not an
> OSRM dev, so I might make some mistakes here.
>
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> 2015-11-24 15:20 GMT+01:00 Bjorn Madsen <bm at multiagenttechnology.com>:
>
> My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs
> something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where
> you both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on
> linkedin <https://uk.linkedin.com/in/bmadsen> and Multi-Agent Technology
> <http://www.multiagenttechnology.com/> London.
>
>
> *Question*: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is suitable
> for truck/lorry routing in its current state?
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> The passability and driving speed of road types is determined by lua
> scripts (see
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/develop/profiles/car.lua
> for the example car script). So you can at least make one script per
> vehicle type (split up your lorries in discrete types, and have a script
> for every type).
>
> Now, OSRM is suited, but I don't know if OSM data is suited. Lorry tagging
> is something not many mappers do (not many mappers need maxweight or
> maxlength properties of a way), so data may be sparse. But this depends a
> lot on the region you're operating in. It's generally known that Europe has
> better coverage than North America, but even in Europe such tagging will
> depend a lot on the region you're in.
>
>
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> I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path,
> length and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning
> purposes. This means that I need to check for constraints such as weight,
> low bridges and width-limitations along the path.
>
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> If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then
> time is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in
> iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is
> inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives
> will need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?
>
>
>
> The demo server is what it is, a demo. If you want truck routing, you'll
> have to install your own server with your own profiles.
>
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> I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk
> instead of writing longer emails.
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> Thanks again for getting back to me.
>
>
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> As for the return service you propose, if you use the data for truckers,
> it would be great if you could get those truckers to help contribute data
> to the database. In contrast to the average mapper, they will care about
> maxweight and maxlength properties, and will want to correct those where
> wrong. In turn, this also makes your data and your routes better.
>
> It can be achieved by giving the truckers a training on how to add that
> data to OSM, or give them some option to add notes to OSM (in which case
> these notes will have to be interpreted by regular mappers, and mapped).
>
> Regards,
>
> Sander
>
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