[Routing] [OSM-talk] www.OpenRouteService.org now supports Bicycle Routing with OSM Data

[Robert (Jamie) Munro]

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Stefan de Konink wrote:
| Nic Roets schreef:
|>> your comments will only lead to stuff like openrouteservice.org
|>> being developed totally behind closed doors - the software I wrote
|> Academic research is so screwed up..
|
| I totally agree. As MSc student myself the importance is focussed on
| writing 'papers' and actually not about producing anything 'useful' in
| sense of software that you have used for generating results.
|
| I'm happy that I'm in two groups that actually famous for treir open
| source implementations. So from that point of view I'm happy to ignore
| the rest of the uni.
|
|
|>> And as for unnecessary duplication - most good things in OSM have
|>> been invented/programmed three or four times over. It's almost
|>> a tradition.
|> Three or four times before the inception of OSM (Garmin, Tom Tom,
|> Destinator etc)
|>
|> More than 4 times in the open source community (RoadNav, NavIt, etc).
|
| I think some things lead to innovation, I cannot say it enough.
| OpenStreetMap design JOSM etc. is STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID, I'm not
| talking about the tool. The tool is ok. But it is as now 3(?) years
| already possible to just generate and update tracks from nmea data,
| under an academic license. Mapgenerator is happy is providing you the
| resulting map.
|
| Merkator is now the first tool that PARTLY support automatic generation.
| It is sad, very sad. The reason why some devs (we don't say names here)
| don't like automatic generation is because 'street names still need to
| be entered manually' they forget that this is also the case if one draw
| the road first.

As this is the routing list, I think it's valid to point out that street
names /don't/ have to be entered (manually or otherwise). You can route
quite happily without street names at all. There's probably a lot of
un-wayed traces in the GPS data we already have.

People who live near the places, but have no GPS, and very little skill
could easily add the street names later, given easy to use tools. If
someone goes to OSM and sees their road, but with no name, and a button
that says "add a name", they can add the name. If they see a big white
area, they think "This map is completely useless" and never come back.

Robert (Jamie) Munro
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