[OSM-Science] Fwd: [Osmf-talk] OSM and OSMF - How do we (want to) operate?

[joost schouppe]

Hi,

This conversation is quite interesting from a scientific perspective, no?
It might be an interesting thesis to investigate current issues with OSM
governance, best practices from similar organisations and close with
recommendations with regards to OSMF policy.


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Van: Oleksiy Muzalyev <oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch>
Date: vr 17 mei 2019 om 09:56
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] OSM and OSMF - How do we (want to) operate?
To: Wolfgang Zenker <wolfgang at lyxys.ka.sub.org>, <
osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>


Dr. Moira Gunn [1] in one of her podcasts told a story as after the
university she came to work at the NASA, the National Aeronautics and
Space Administration. She and other young engineers and scientists were
told to avoid by all means inventing new things, but instead to search
for the existing blocks of knowledge. And to construct from these
blocks. In other words they were encouraged to learn what was already
done by others about the issue before trying to invent a homemade solution.

Only if there was a tiny space between these blocks of knowledge and
only if they could not find any existing solution, they could start
inventing.

I think it would be a good methodology before implementing new
structures, ideas, and decisions to study first what was already done in
other similar organizations. Not copying but at least get acquainted
with the existing positive and negative experience before constructing
something new.

[1] http://www.technation.com/about-dr--gunn.html

Best regards,
Oleksiy
( Alex-7 @ osm )

On 5/16/19 22:58, Wolfgang Zenker wrote:
> Both in OSM (the community) and the OSMF (the membership association) we
> often see discussions that do not lead to any useful results. While this
> might be because the topic has strong arguments on multiple sides of the
> debate, at other times it might be because we (the community and the
> OSMF) have not really discussed how we want to operate, how we want to
> make decisions or if we should make decisions at all, what goals we
> share (if any), and who should be accountable to whom for what.
> Our current structures are as far as I see born out of ad-hoc decisions
> of what appeared appropriate or convenient at a time, or what was
> necessary for legal or technical reasons. It might well be that we want
> to continue with the structures we have now, or we might find that the
> structures we have are no longer a good fit for the OSM ecosystem of
> today. Whichever way we go should be an conscious decision, I think.
>
> Not everyone will be interested in this of course, many will be content
> with just mapping their part of the world or developing software. But
> for those interested in going forward with ideas of how OSM and the OSMF
> are or should be organized, I suggest to start discussions in local user
> groups, on this or other mailing list and if sufficient interest exists,
> to meet at the next SOTM and start an "organization working group". The
> decision we would need to make for that is, what mandate to give to that
> working group and to whom it should be accountable and deliver its
> results.
>
> Greetings,
> Wolfgang
> ( lyx @ osm )
>
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