[Tagging] Non Proposed Features

John Smith deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 29 06:59:51 BST 2010

2010/8/28 Matthias Meißer <digi_c at arcor.de>:
> You write in the wiki that it is unable to repair it and spot on a working
> group.

Just so we're clear, I mean the current prescribed method of requiring
people to vote on proposals is broken, there is thousands of
contributors and most proposals don't get more than a dozen votes if
they are lucky, this doesn't seem to be working to me no.

> I think this will be a nice idea even if it might result in a discussion if
> this centralisation might gain to much power even if they are only janitors.

Also I didn't come up with the idea of a working group or a committee
to evaluate proposals, but others are completely against this idea as
well, however the current suggestion of a do-ocracy seems doomed to
end in endless/pointless disputes as well, take a look at the most
recent pointless thread over culverts.

On the surface this seems a complete waste of time to spend hours
argumenting over something so simple, concrete or similar pipes in the
ground or under road ways that carry water, yet it went on for days
because of slight differences of opinion, and because there is no form
of mediation in place there was no end result (that I saw) and now
there is going to be 2 groups of thought that go off and do their own
thing and be incompatible with each other, how is that actually useful
at all?

>From what I'm told this issue isn't unique to OSM, many different
government/professional bodies have been having similar debates for

> Should this group be part of the foundation? What tools will they need? Can
> we modify the wiki to be a nicer tool?

The wiki should at most be used to document decisions or outcomes or
usages, it is a very poor way to discuss things, although the mailing
list isn't always useful either.

While face to face meetings might sort things out with professional
bodies, that isn't practical for volunteers to keep funding out of
their own pockets.

Teleconferences usually won't help either, languages and even just
accents can complicate matters and that's before you even start
dealing with time zones.

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