[Tagging] Light rail station

Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com
Thu Aug 18 16:29:35 BST 2011


There's various systems that use railway=tram_stop. You tag what you
like, but there's no guarantee anyone will pick up your data if you
use something different. I don't know if that matters.

Some tram/light_rail systems run exclusively on-street, others use a
bit of track, some are mostly on track (and probably have proper
signalling). The distinctions are more technical than real. All of
them cater for local journeys and are largely separate from whatever
heavy rail system there is.

The distinctions feel to me to be techy things that belong in
sub-tags. If there are very fuzzy boundaries, it doesn't make sense to
have too many categories.

Richard



On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
> Richard,
> Why 'should' they be a tram stop? Is that a convention I don't know about? I
> can't derive it from the descriptions in the wiki.
> The local situation here in Salt Lake is actually a little more complicated.
> TRAX is definitely a light rail system (With Siemens SD-100 and Avanto sets)
> but for significant stretches runs on former heavy rail trackbeds that the
> transit authority owned or bought the rights of way of. As far as I can tell
> the original heavy rail tracks are used, at least on some stretches. Of
> course new signaling and overhead wires were installed.
> Martijn
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Richard Mann
> <richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Trams and street-running light rail should have railway=tram_stop. Put
>> in a sub-tag if you want to distinguish different types.
>>
>> If your light-rail system runs onto heavy rail (eg famously in
>> Karlsruhe), and shares stations with heavy rail passenger services,
>> then use railway=station on the clearly heavy rail sections.
>>
>> I'd avoid using railway=light_rail in marginal cases - I think some
>> people use it for S-bahn services (loco-hauled double-deck carriages;
>> definitely not lightweight!), and the tagging isn't entirely helpful
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
>> >> A light rail stop, would that be a railway=tram_stop or a
>> >> railway=station?
>> >
>> > Sounds like a third option is required. Here (Melbourne, Australia)
>> > tram stops vary from just a sign on a telephone pole to "super stops"
>> > (raised platforms, safety barriers and ticket machines) to former
>> > train stations that now only serve light rails. The first are clearly
>> > "railway=tram_stop", the last are really "railway=station" (but it
>> > would be misleading to render them exactly the same as a real train
>> > station), but the super stops are really something else, some subclass
>> > of tram_stop maybe.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
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