[Tagging] Differences in cycleways

Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Sat Jan 8 14:47:41 GMT 2011


Am 08.01.2011 13:40, schrieb Robert Elsenaar:
> Richard,
>
> This is indeed a great cycleway=track. By the way it is nice that the 
> feature 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/right_left has 
> been approved.
> Your example can be taggen by:
> highway=*
> cycleway=track
> In fact it is cycleway:both=track, but with no :right or :left we mean 
> that the track is on both sides.
Please keep in mind, that with this in mind, cycleway:both=track is more 
precise as cycleway=track could be due to another interpretation of the 
local mapper.
If you tag it as cycleway:both=track, it's more clear.
>
> Question for everybody:
> Supposein Richards example the grass lane between highway and 
> cyclewaytrack is about 2 meters and they have planted a few trees on 
> that grass lane.
> Can we still call this a cycleway track?
>
> -Robert-
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Richard Mann
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:17 PM
> To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
>
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Oxford,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.763179,-1.235468&spn=0,0.009602&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.763263,-1.235435&panoid=2D4TwRiiHwpu0OraA8vbPA&cbp=12,7.14,,0,5 
>
>
> Some people (not me particularly) might complain that your example has
> cycle tracks that are shared with pedestrians. The example above has
> separate footways and cycle tracks on both sides (and priority for the
> cycle tracks at side roads, which is a distinct novelty for the UK!)
>
> Richard
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Robert Elsenaar <robert at elsenaar.info> 
> wrote:
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>
>> All great thoughts. Peter i take your critisism on the right way.
>> Still you didn't answer my call for help.
>>
>> Let go back to the base of my question:
>> cycleway=track
>> =============
>> Who can give me examples on Google street view of what we have to
>> concider to be cycleway-tracks?
>> - Go to Google map Streetview
>> - find a good example of what you consider to be a cycleway=track
>> - Use the "Link" in the left upper corner
>> - Post this link.
>>
>> Let me start:
>> http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&ie=UTF8&ll=52.235698,5.701776&spn=0.006163,0.021136&z=16&layer=c&cbll=52.235696,5.701937&panoid=amiIS_Sdj-ssgyQipVgJ3Q&cbp=12,274.9,,1,4.23 
>>
>> This is a real cycleway track I think
>>
>> Please post your ultimate cycleway=track !!!!!!!
>>
>> -Robert-
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Richard Mann
>> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:56 PM
>> To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:30 PM, <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I suspect that I am not the only one who has been confused by the
>>> totally-unrelated meanings of highway=track (a minor, rural road) and
>>> cycleway=track (a cycleway along side an automobile road).  I don't 
>>> know
>>> which one came first, but it is unfortunate that the naming scheme 
>>> wasn't
>>> more consistent.
>>
>> Sorry. English has a habit of doing that, but it matches what highway
>> engineers/planners call them. They wouldn't pick "cycleway" as the
>> name for the key, however (they'd use cycle_facility or
>> cycle_farcility).
>>
>> Richard
>>
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