[Tagging] Prevoting: New_barrier_types

John F. Eldredge john at jfeldredge.com
Thu Jul 7 13:00:02 BST 2011


Steve Doerr <doerr.stephen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 06/07/2011 23:24, Pieren wrote:
> 
> >
> http://maps.google.ch/maps?q=paris,+Cour+Delepine&hl=fr&ll=48.853267,2.376236&spn=0.001272,0.001982&sll=48.853393,2.376266&sspn=0.002527,0.003964&t=k&z=19&layer=c&cbll=48.853272,2.376236&panoid=QaPsmt8GresisBm_udoo9w&cbp=12,4.87,,0,10.23
> 
> >
> <http://maps.google.ch/maps?q=paris,+Cour+Delepine&hl=fr&ll=48.853267,2.376236&spn=0.001272,0.001982&sll=48.853393,2.376266&sspn=0.002527,0.003964&t=k&z=19&layer=c&cbll=48.853272,2.376236&panoid=QaPsmt8GresisBm_udoo9w&cbp=12,4.87,,0,10.23>
> 
> >
> > And this case, Cour Delepine entrance, Paris:
> 
> It certainly looks like doors. But if one knew that it led into a
> 'cour' 
> (courtyard), one would call them gates (or a (double) gate).
> 
> The OED defines 'door' as:
> 
> ' 1.
> 
> ' a. A movable barrier of wood or other material, consisting either of
> 
> one piece, or of several pieces framed together, usually turning on 
> hinges or sliding in a groove, and serving to close or open a passage 
> into a building, room, etc.'
> 
> The final 'etc.' leaves room for argument, but otherwise the
> definition 
> suggests that the space on one side of the barrier must be inside a 
> building for it to be considered a door.
> 
> -- 
> Steve
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I think the problem is that the English word "door" has a more specific meaning than the French word "porte" evidently does.  The closest cognate in English would be "portal", which means "door, gate, or entrance."

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