[Tagging] service=drive-through or drive_through?

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello everyone,

Here's some additional context and history to frame the discussion:


In April 2010, I first suggested having another value (namely,
service=drive_thru) for the service=* tag for drive-through lanes
similar to service=parking_aisle:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-April/001710.html

>From the ensuing discussion, "through" vs. "thru" was discussed, some
people questioned the value of having such another value, and there
was a side discussion about public right-of-ways vs. permissive
accesses. The question of underscore vs. hyphen was also tackled.

Based on the responses, the rough consensus that I gathered was for
using service=drive_through. Why? Because people have said that OSM
has a strong preference for unabbreviated words, and also that there's
a strong preference for underscores (In fact, there is no hyphenated
key or value in the Map Features page).

Based on the discussion, I then changed all of the ways that I had
already tagged with service=drive_thru to service=drive_through:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5228429


In October 2010, I re-opened the thread asking for opinions regarding
the underscore vs. hyphen question because I noticed the hyphenated
version in the Wiki:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tagging@openstreetmap.org/msg05167.html

Again, most people that replied have expressed a preference for using
the underscore. In addition, by that time, there was also another Wiki
page for the drive_through=yes tag
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drive_through> to indicate
that an amenity has drive-though service.

Having two tags (drive_through=yes and service=drive-through) one with
an underscore and another with a hyphen is quite inconsistent. So
there's an incentive to harmonize these two tags to both use
underscores.


In April 2011, I moved the Wiki page to service=drive_through:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:service%3Ddrive_through&diff=628129&oldid=566268

In May 2011, I corrected some tag values in some parts of the world:
service=drivethrough -> service=drive_through:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8059511
service=drivethru -> service=drive_through:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8059542
service=drive_thru --> service=drive_through:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8067153
service=drive-through --> service=drive_through:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8067345
service=drive-through --> service=drive_through:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8067383
+ 10 further changesets.

I didn't receive a message nor did anyone bring the topic up in the
tagging mailing list so I figured that people were OK with what I did.
I certainly modified all over the world and somebody would have
noticed it.


In June 2011 (a few days ago) I continued changing the values to use
underscores instead of hyphens. Dave F. noticed and started this
thread. Based on a suggestion to submit patches, I then submitted
patches to Potlatch 2 at Github and the Mapnik stylesheet at Trac to
use the underscore versions.


This is the history of service=drive_through tag from my perspective.

If this discussion will force the community to finally agree on the
preferred value, then this whole thing would have been worth it.


On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, James Mast <rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> All I know is that "service=drive-through" was rendered already in Mapnik
> while "service=drive_through" is not.
>
> Look here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.525952&lon=-80.006203&zoom=18&layers=M
>
> I had originally tagged the "Drive Thru's" for Taco Bell and Arby's here as
> "service=drive-through" before "seav" changed them.  The area now looks
> really bad when you zoom out because they are now rendered as normal
> "highway=service" ways.
>
> Here's the original ticket on the Trac that I did that got the
> "service=drive-through" rendered like parking aisles:
> http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3193
>
> And put my vote in as "service=drive-through".
>
> --
>
> And if you guys didn't know, seav posted a request to have the rendering
> changed today in Trac: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3873