[Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag
Ilpo Järvinen
ilpo.jarvinen at helsinki.fi
Sat Apr 21 12:34:56 BST 2012
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012, Ronnie Soak wrote:
> In my opinion, lanes=1.5 is a very bad choice. We have a tag for
> this situation: width . According to taginfo, lanes=1.5 is used,
> but not too often. What should we do? I would recommend not to
> use it and advise to specify a width (which is also objective
> rather than subjective as 1.5 is).
>
> +1
>
> The width-tag is widely used, is more general and part of the standard set
> of fields for many highway-categories in JOSM and Potlatch.
> It may be harder to estimate a width in meters instead of a lanes count, but
> I think it's possible within +/- 1m, especially for narrow ways.
This difficulty is very true and it disallows collecting more than few of
them at a time since you'd have to remember/note those estimates until you
have a computer with which you can put that into the db.
> (I personally only use it with either rather narrow or rather wide ways out
> of the norm.)
>
> The lanes tag is used with integral numbers, most tools won't recognize
> fractions. And even if they do, it's still highly subjective if it's lanes=1
> or lanes=1.5 or lanes=2 if there are no road markings. (If you have to slow
> down to pass depends on your type of car, the road (and weather/sight)
> conditions and your bravery/insanity.)
I'm not really convinced by the subjectivity fear in this case. It's
always quite clear when the road is clearly wider than a single lane (and
that is provable too in many cases as you are able to spot few cars
passing by ;-)). And on the other end, it is not extremely hard to
estimate that it would be rather challenging to pass an incoming car
without slowing down.
...What I don't really care if it is called lanes=1.5 or
lanes=1/2+some_other_agreed_tag_which_is_not_an_estimated_width=x, but
simply saying that use lanes=1/2 alone instead I oppose.
--
i.
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