[Tagging] Everybody is hiding?

Martin Vonwald imagic.osm at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 13:52:27 BST 2012


While I agree with Frederik almost completely, the absence of a
tagging scheme for conditions will have some unwanted side effects. A
current example in my opinion would be this great and completely
intuitive n2/n3 tagging that was just invented. It was already
documented in the german access article, giving the impression that
this is an accepted tag. If we would have a tagging scheme for
conditions this could have been prevented.

Martin

2012/8/9 Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 08/09/2012 01:41 PM, Eckhart Wörner wrote:
>>
>> Therefore, I expected that those people who had voted against the
>> proposal came up with a well-designed alternative proposal
>
>
> You have to work on your expectations then. Has it occurred to you that some
> people don't find extended conditions important enough at all?
>
> Personally, I think that most of the extended conditions that the proposal
> tried to address were not worth having a tagging scheme for; they were stuff
> that only a few perfectionists would want to map anyway. And while I am not
> against perfectionists mapping stuff they like, I am against elevating this
> to the state of an "accepted proposal" because that would convey too much
> mindshare to such a marginal issue.
>
> The proposal is driven by a geek-y desire to convert every last bit of
> information contained in a road sign into an OSM tag. But I don't think that
> this is what people will usually want to do, and I fear that giving this
> idea more mindshare will in the end lead to our editors being burdened by
> special restriction composer preset tabs where you can generate stuff like
> time and weather dependent speed limits for disabled persons with children.
>
> I don't think that the proposal is the "de facto standard" either. I think
> some of its parts will probably be used - e.g. I could see "maxspeed:wet"
> being of use. I think it is likely however that this will be interpreted
> like a normal, fixed tag, and I don't believe anyone will actually implement
> a restriction parser that understands any combination of restrictions on any
> tags.
>
> I have no problem whatsoever if the mapping of speed limits that only apply
> to HGV at night happens by way of a "note" tag. It's just not frequent
> enough to even discuss.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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