[Tagging] Reviving the conditions debate

[Flaimo]

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> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:31:17 +0200
> From: Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com>
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> I think I found a solution using a self-defined rule:
>  access:motor_vehicle!rule.time=10:00-18:00
>  access:motor_vehicle!rule.width=5+
>  access:motor_vehicle?rule=no
>
> Can this be simplified somehow (using the 1.5 proposal)?
>
> 2012/6/14 Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com>:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Maybe someone can help me defining the following access restriction
>> using the 1.5 proposal:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Length_and_time_restriction_2.jpg


alternate version:

access:motorized.time=Mo-Su 00:00-10:00,18:00-24:00
access!shortvehicle.length=5
access:motorized?shortvehicle.time=24/7



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> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:53:33 +0200
> From: Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com>
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> I tried to express this with the other proposal. I got this:
> motor_vehicle:(Mo-Fr 16:00-18:00):forward=no
> agricultural:(Mo-Fr 16:00-18:00):forward=yes
> goods:(Mo-Fr 16:00-18:00):forward=yes
>
> motor_vehicle:(Mo-Fr 06:00-09:00):forward=no
> agricultural:(Mo-Fr 06:00-09:00):forward=no
> goods:(Mo-Fr 06:00-09:00):forward=no
>
> I assume here, that agricultural and goods are more specific than
> motor_vehicle. Any chance of simplifying this?

this notation has the same flaw as the current access scheme. it mixes
transportation modes and user roles. "motor_vehicle" is a
transportation mode. "agricultural" is a user role. not everywhere on
this planet "agricultural" automatically means "motor_vehicle". that
is what the 1.5 proposal tries to solve.

flaimo