[Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

Tobias Johansson tj at mensa.se
Fri May 18 09:27:19 BST 2012


You understand me correctly. Or maybe a text something similar to this:
"This picture shows a round place with a traversable island in the
middle, but this is
neither a mini-roundabout nor a roundabout, but instead a turning
circle, which allows large vehicles to turn around. Not saying that
all turning circels need to be round nor have a traversible island."
or.. I dont know maybee I was only tired yesterday.. :)

MvH Thod

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>> round place with a traversable island in the middle, but this is
>> neither a mini-roundabout nor a roundabout, but instead a turning
>> circle, which allows large vehicles to turn around.

2012/5/18 Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com>:
> Hi Tobias,
>
> Sorry to start this again, but yesterday evening was a little difficult. ;-)
>
> I reread the description and tagging of the example. If I understood
> you correct - please correct me if not - you are confused because
> about this: "A ROUND place with a traversable ISLAND". So "round" and
> "island" are the problem - right?
>
> Actually the description just states what can be seen on the photo. A
> highway=turning_circle still is a widened space of whatever shape and
> with no or a traversable island. Nothing changed and should be changed
> in the definition of the tag.
>
> Did I understood you correct? If so, I'm thinking about a more clear
> wording for this example. Also the statement "A turning circle is a
> widened space on a two-way street without any center island." should
> be updated to include "fully traversable island".
>
> Thanks for your feedback,
> Martin
>
>
> 2012/5/17 Tobias Johansson <tj at mensa.se>:
>> On the page you referensed to. in the table with pictures it says "A
>> round place with a traversable island in the middle, but this is
>> neither a mini-roundabout nor a roundabout, but instead a turning
>> circle, which allows large vehicles to turn around. "
>>
>> 2012/5/17 Martin Vonwald (Imagic) <imagic.osm at gmail.com>:
>>> But this is exactly the definition of turning_place: a widening of the road without any island.
>>>
>>> Am 17.05.2012 um 22:23 schrieb Tobias Johansson <tj at mensa.se>:
>>>
>>>> There is one thing. In Sweden we have something called "Vändplats"
>>>> http://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/Vag/Vagmarken/Forbudsmarken/Vandplats/
>>>> roughly translated "turnaroundplace" usally in sweden we have used
>>>> highway=turning_circle for this.
>>>> According to this definition almost no "vändplats" would be
>>>> turning_circles because:
>>>> They are almost never circular (except new ones beeing built today).
>>>> And there is no island in the middle.
>>>> In many cases they ar more like a widening of the road so its possible
>>>> to make a three-point-turn.
>>>>
>>>> I dont think anyone i sweden will change how we map this in Sweden
>>>> because of this definition. But how do you guys feel about this?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards Thod
>>>>
>>>> 2012/5/17 Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com>:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> I updated now the english article:
>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout
>>>>> Translations will follow in the next days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to everyone who took part in the discussion and provided
>>>>> valuable feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay tuned - I'll come back to you for the next article soon ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
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