[Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Sat May 19 16:43:02 BST 2012

Some remark on these three examples:

They are all so large that there is no technical advantage in tagging them
as roundabouts as opposed to just normal roads that happen to be circular.
Why do we want to map a junction as "roundabout"? The main reason is most
likely that this way the navigation software can produce the right
Instead of saying: "turn right on xxx ring road" you woud say "entering
and for leaving instead of "straight on" (twice) , followed by "turn right
on yyy street" it would say "leave roundabout on 3rd exit" on entering and,
possibly, followed by "leave roundabout on next exit".
This difference is only of importance on roundabouts of smallish
dimensions. The three examples are so big that there is enough time for the
announcements and, hence, in practice it does not make any difference how
you tag them.

This argument is valid for the US and the UK.

All three examples would not be roundabouts in Germany or Italy, where the
use of the "roundabout" tag is linked to the presence of the corresponding
road sign for a roundabout, at least this seems to be common practice on


On 19 May 2012 17:13, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 18:07 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> > If anyone doubts that existing tagging does not match the wiki, see the
> > following examples, all tagged as junction=roundabout by editors other
> > than me:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5677217
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9080282
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25529510
> >
> Speaking as a Brit who has held a driving licence for 33 years and have
> been dealing with roundabouts for all of that time, all 3 look like
> roundabouts to me, the 2nd is a Hamburger Roundabout.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Hamburger_roundabout.2Fthroughabout.2Fcut-through_roundabout
> Traffic lights on roundabouts are extremely common, and nobody in the UK
> would consider them anything but a roundabout. Roundabouts can come in
> all shapes and sizes. Whilst I cannot think of any that have stop signs,
> I cannot see why they wouldn't in a country where stop signs are
> commonly used. Having driven in Canada, the number of stop signs in
> places I would not have expected them to be did is one of my memories of
> driving there.
> Stop signs are quite rare in the UK and are mainly used on blind
> junctions.
> Phil
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