[Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

A.Pirard.Papou A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
Thu Nov 22 01:26:01 GMT 2012

On 2012-11-21 22:45, Jo wrote :
> Adding 1000 nodes to the OSM DB, which are meant to be deleted once 
> again seems like some sort of pollution. 
I said: non obtrusive. That is, believed to be harmless. That is, not 
seen on the map, not retrieved by any application, just appearing on 
both OSMI and OSMOSE.
There are many more than 1000 things in OSM whose destination is 
destruction.  Resembling this Zone 30, all the FIXMEs here and there, 
like quite a number of "admin_level shouldn't be 4" on the borderline of 
England (without telling what it should be ("what do I try next, 8?") ).
A French guy on the GPS list said that those POIs saved him money. But I 
won't fight for that  ;-)
> On the other hand it would be possible to join them to the ways, since 
> the ways need to be split anyway as the maxspeed changes there.
Ouch. They are POIs, so, often near the middle of the way, probably at a 
school door.
The best you could do is extend them by 100 m both side.
That would mean that the POIs' data wouldn't be flashing, that nobody 
would care to check and that real bogus data would have been introduced.
> Kaly nychta,
Avrio to proï, Gèrètè ( don' t know much). добрый вечер. пока.

> Polyglot
> 2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com 
> <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>
>     On 2012-11-21 14:47, Sander Deryckere wrote :
>>     Always take some time, you knew that uploading 1000 POI wasn't
>>     going to be appreciated.
>>     Uploading bugs to OpenStreetBugs is very easy. A few lines of
>>     bash or perl code would do
>>     http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/API_0.6#addPOIexec
>     I'm sorry not to always make every answer personal.
>     I have just been round correcting a 20+ bugs of OSB over a rather
>     large area (low density).
>     Most of what I did was erasing the requests because they had
>     already been corrected outside OSB, even 1 or 2 years ago. Other
>     bugs were saying things like "priority is the other way" without
>     thinking that if it was corrected outside OSB too, doing what is
>     said would set the priority wrong again.
>     On the other hand, we have just heard of Teddy: kudos, Teddy:
>>     I have worked with http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/ hto fix error
>>     of routing. 2 months of work and hundreds of roads have been
>>     corrected in Wallonia and in the surrounding area. Pffff, it is
>>     well advanced... 
>     New crater on Earth.
>     <http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=5.23069&lat=50.14893&zoom=8&overlays=unconnected_major1,unconnected_major2,unconnected_major5,unconnected_minor1,unconnected_minor2,unconnected_minor5>
>     This is why I believe more in OSMI/OSMOSE than in OSB.
>>     But the problem isn't in uploading to OSB or OSM, it's checking
>>     if there isn't already a speed limit present. The OSM database
>>     shouldn't be filled with duplicate data if the data is already
>>     okay.  For OSB, this might be less of a problem, but it's still
>>     not wanted.
>     As I have just explained, someone finding an already corrected
>     problem is just half surprised, the less if he is warned why, and
>     he feels like working terribly fast ;)
>     I betcha some would rush
>>     Does anyone see a way on how to achieve this?
>     Да. Jo the Polyglot, WinFixIT at gmail.com
>     <mailto:WinFixIT at gmail.com> as he wrote this afternoon
>     On 2012-11-21 16:53, Jo wrote :
>>     I may have a way to upload them to OSB. The API is indeed quite
>>     accessible. In order to take out the ones that are already in the
>>     OSM data, I can download all the maxspeed=30 with Overpass API
>>     and remove the ones which have end nodes near to them.
>>     I'll see what I can do with some help from PostGIS.
>>     Polyglot
>     I'm standing by, finger on the trigger. When you want.
>     Cheers,
>     André.
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