A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
Fri Nov 30 16:36:32 GMT 2012
The more I tag, the more I read these lists, the more I think: If we
could use SEGMENT...
I'll just sketch the idea. It has several implications to be discussed.
So, I refrained from making an incorrect or incomplete proposition, but
an /in construction/ one would be fine.
The best idea is to keep the idea in mind and imagine it in various
situations as they arise.
We don't like splitting ways, finding unnecessarily splits, fearing to
We don't like to have to make hard-to-the-novice relations just because
A very typical example is this:
I was mapping hiking routes relations and I was utterly disgusted to
split in every places.
Here, the vertical very main road was split over 50 m just because of
two misaligned paths.
So, why not avoid splitting in the first place?
is a tag meaning that the tags of the pseudo way it defines must be
merged over the /*segment*/'s span with the tags of the home way
<reference> that /*segment*/ overlaps.
It shares the nodes of its home way of which it modifies the tags
between its 2 end nodes.
Example: if a street (---) is one-way on only some span, we can add a
segment (+++), a way over that span, (---------++++++++-----------)
||possibly (1) for a bridge
||in the "typical example" above:
because the segment is kinda brandless plaster changing absolutely
nothing to the road but being included in the relation.
A segment must not contain tags that belongs to the home way, just what
to change in it.
There may be restrictions to what can be in a segment (no paramount keys?).
Basically, what a segment may mean for the renderer (pardon me) is to
internally split the home way at the segment's ends, to apply the
segment tags to the so-created way, and to forget about the segment.
The segment however retains its existence when it comes to include it in
a relation. In that case, the segment may be considered as an alias of
the "so-created way".
Depending on what they do, programs that process the data should process
segments (as they presently should process relation recursion).
Segments however are real parts of the database, transmitted as such to
an editor for which the importance is essential.
A key aspect of a segment is that it highlights clearly its reason for
being (plus, note=* can't be used but segment_note can ;-)). Presently
knowing why a way is split requires "diff"ing it with an eagle eye.
I'm unsure or what <reference> must be (I once thought of using layer#;
recursivity: can a segment <reference> another segment?
That can be useful for example in case of a 30 km/h overriding a 50 km/h
priority: what if two segments alter the main way contradictorily?
priority is another way to solve the speed limit example, but it needs
an eagle eye.
negation: has every tag a way to zap it to default value?
Or should we invent a no:tag=* ?
size: does a segment need to repeat every nodes of the home way or do
the 2 ends suffice?
Could it span over several ways (<reference> issue)?
Note=that a street which is usually thought of as what has a same name=
can easily become a what-it-looks-like object, e.g. long avenue or whole
circular road, by /*segment*/ing name=.
Hence, segment could be used as a sort of mini easy relation.
progressiveness: could /*segment */be deployed in steps,
you name it: ???
That's what keeps roving in my mind and that I would like to replace by
(1) if we consider the bridge as an attribute of the road (bridg*ed*).
If we consider it as an object, it should overlay the non-interrupted
road at level -1.
A bridge is a piece of concrete supporting an non-interrupted tarmac foil.
The renderer (pardon me) can draw a full solid bridge hidden by the road
instead of, if at level 2, side rails with transparent central part.
PS: This said, I independently wonder why roads are interrupted at a bridge.
As I've just said, a bridge is just an additional object under a road at
Similarly, a tunnel is above the way at level +1, and what's above it
should better be semi-transparent over some width across the way.
I have mapped without any problem many km of uninterrupted streams at
best level -2, and passing under culverts and bridges that are at level -1.
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