[Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

Svavar Kjarrval svavar at kjarrval.is
Mon Oct 15 19:00:20 GMT 2012


Then it could be easy for them to tailor those requirements to ignore
restrictions into the routing software.

- Svavar Kjarrval

On 15/10/12 18:45, Colin Smale wrote:
> Not in the UK or the Netherlands at least. They can do whatever they
> see fit in the course of duty, especially with lights and sirens. Of
> course they can be called to account if anything goes wrong. But a
> policeman chasing a criminal who turns the wrong way up a one way
> street is going to follow them and is not going to take a longer route
> just because of a little no-entry sign. Maxspeed, turn restrictions,
> oneways, waiting/stopping/parking restrictions, traffic signals - you
> name it, they can (and do) ignore it when required (sometimes only
> under certain circumstances such as life-and-death).
>
> Having said that there are certain restrictions which they would do
> well to follow, such as maxheight and maxwidth. If it don't fit, it
> don't fit, with or without blue lights!
>
> Colin
>
> On 15/10/2012 20:26, Svavar Kjarrval wrote:
>> I think most laws require that even emergency vehicles observe
>> restrictions like oneway streets. If there are any restrictions which
>> can be broken in case of emergency vehicles, I think they'd program
>> their routing software to them.
>>
>> - Svavar Kjarrval
>>
>> On 15/10/12 18:16, Eckhart Wörner wrote:
>>> Hi Colin,
>>>
>>> Am Montag, 15. Oktober 2012, 20:08:01 schrieb Colin Smale:
>>>> I don't understand why emergency vehicles are so important in this 
>>>> discussion. In the first place they have wide-ranging exemptions from 
>>>> traffic rules, which (let's be honest) we are never going to tag in OSM. 
>>>> Secondly they are never going to be relying on OSM data (or indeed any 
>>>> normal sat-nav) for lane-precise routing. They are trained to use their 
>>>> eyes and brains to make split-second decisions on what is safe and an 
>>>> acceptable risk under the circumstances of that moment. Thirdly, they 
>>>> will be about 0.0000000001% of the potential users of OSM data - why 
>>>> should we compromise "service" to the vast majority of real users for 
>>>> the hypothetical benefit of the very few.
>>> I fully agree with you; if we were going to map for emergency vehicles, we'd probably have to add
>>> oneway:conditional = no @ emergency
>>> for almost all oneway roads first.
>>>
>>> Eckhart
>>>
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