[Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

John F. Eldredge john at jfeldredge.com
Sun Dec 1 02:07:34 UTC 2013

On 11/30/2013 11:22 AM, Jonathan wrote:
> I don't care if it's publicly available or not.  Even if it is for the 
> personal and private use of some person somewhere (makes it even more 
> creepy).  Surveillance is surveillance, doesn't matter why, where it 
> goes and who has it.
> It should be tagged accordingly.
> Jonathan
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
> On 30/11/2013 14:39, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>> Internet-connected cameras aren't necessarily publicly-viewable. 
>> Access to the camera may require a password, or the video stream may 
>> be sent, encrypted, to some other point.
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I agree with your statement that a camera is doing surveillance, whether 
privately or available to the public.  I disagree with your statement 
that "no matter what the intention of a webcam it is pushing to the 
internet and therefore there is no control on who sees it and what they 
use it for", since, as you just agreed, video being pushed to the 
Internet isn't necessarily publicly available. Including the definition 
that a camera that is connected to the Internet necessarily is available 
to all comers would mean that most security cameras connected to the 
Internet would not be classed as surveillance cameras.

John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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